if bloomberg is so worried about people getting killed, then why doesnt he do the smart and make murder illegal?
Bloomberg at it again. .. in Arizona!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/31/new.yo ... google_cnn
I beleive that NYC has a higher homicide rate than Phoenix, AZ.
The man runs (one of) the most fouled up cities in the U.S.,yet still has time to pull this kind of stuff? He should think about the illegal gun trade in his own city, not the rest of the country.New York (CNN) -- Undercover investigators purchased semiautomatic weapons at an Arizona gun show, despite telling vendors that they probably could not pass background checks, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told reporters Monday.
I beleive that NYC has a higher homicide rate than Phoenix, AZ.
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Better question. Where doew he get the authority to investigate anything in other states? Why is he not being charged for straw purchase?
Anybody who sells a gun to someone telling them they can't pass a backgroud check is an idiot. :screwy: :roll: And has a better than even chance of winding up :jail:
If he is not purchasing from a FFL, is it considered a straw purchase?gruntpain1775 said:Better question. Where doew he get the authority to investigate anything in other states? Why is he not being charged for straw purchase?
The "investigators" were AZ PI's. They were sent to buy guns. Bloomy sent them. Thus bloomy sent people to buy guns for him. He is a resident of New York. He can not purchase a gun in another state. The guns were purchased in AZ. Thus, Bloomy had someone buy guns for him in another state.janedoedad said:If he is not purchasing from a FFL, is it considered a straw purchase?gruntpain1775 said:Better question. Where doew he get the authority to investigate anything in other states? Why is he not being charged for straw purchase?
Strawman. Illegal.
Seems MAYOR Bloomberg has the jurisdiction and budget to worry about another state. Too bad he can't keep teachers working in his own city.
Or snow plowed.jwhunt said:Seems MAYOR Bloomberg has the jurisdiction and budget to worry about another state. Too bad he can't keep teachers working in his own city.
I'm having difficulties finding any laws that pertain to straw purchases in a private transaction scenario. The PI's were not buying from an FFL so no 4473 was involved. Help me out here. Thanks in advance....gruntpain1775 said:The "investigators" were AZ PI's. They were sent to buy guns. Bloomy sent them. Thus bloomy sent people to buy guns for him. He is a resident of New York. He can not purchase a gun in another state. The guns were purchased in AZ. Thus, Bloomy had someone buy guns for him in another state.janedoedad said:If he is not purchasing from a FFL, is it considered a straw purchase?gruntpain1775 said:Better question. Where doew he get the authority to investigate anything in other states? Why is he not being charged for straw purchase?
Strawman. Illegal.
Can a person from one state send someone in another state to buy a handgun for them?Ghostfinger said:I'm having difficulties finding any laws that pertain to straw purchases in a private transaction scenario. The PI's were not buying from an FFL so no 4473 was involved. Help me out here. Thanks in advance....gruntpain1775 said:The "investigators" were AZ PI's. They were sent to buy guns. Bloomy sent them. Thus bloomy sent people to buy guns for him. He is a resident of New York. He can not purchase a gun in another state. The guns were purchased in AZ. Thus, Bloomy had someone buy guns for him in another state.janedoedad said:If he is not purchasing from a FFL, is it considered a straw purchase?gruntpain1775 said:Better question. Where doew he get the authority to investigate anything in other states? Why is he not being charged for straw purchase?
Strawman. Illegal.
I know it's a stretch. And perhaps my sarcasm hasn't really been conveyed here, but my stretch of the above law is equal to bloomberg stretching his interpretation of the "loophole".
Isn't the problem dealers selling illegally?
In the videos the purchases were done through private sales.pml said:Isn't the problem dealers selling illegally?
Then there would be no check, I guess. So that is the point of it? Seems strange to have a NYer doing this. Prelude to a run for president?gruntpain1775 said:In the videos the purchases were done through private sales.pml said:Isn't the problem dealers selling illegally?
That would be great, he would be easy to defeat.pml said:Then there would be no check, I guess. So that is the point of it? Seems strange to have a NYer doing this. Prelude to a run for president?gruntpain1775 said:In the videos the purchases were done through private sales.pml said:Isn't the problem dealers selling illegally?
That would be great except that money wins elections....and he has lots of it...enough to buy mayor of NYC...gruntpain1775 said:That would be great, he would be easy to defeat.pml said:Then there would be no check, I guess. So that is the point of it? Seems strange to have a NYer doing this. Prelude to a run for president?gruntpain1775 said:In the videos the purchases were done through private sales.pml said:Isn't the problem dealers selling illegally?
Grunt-don't get me wrong- I'm right there with you on this one. Bloomberg is scary- hell, thanks to him and his crew New Yorker's can't even choose what fat to have their french fries fried in. I guess he is as frightened of trans fat as he is 'evil black guns'.gruntpain1775 said:Can a person from one state send someone in another state to buy a handgun for them?Ghostfinger said:I'm having difficulties finding any laws that pertain to straw purchases in a private transaction scenario. The PI's were not buying from an FFL so no 4473 was involved. Help me out here. Thanks in advance....gruntpain1775 said:The "investigators" were AZ PI's. They were sent to buy guns. Bloomy sent them. Thus bloomy sent people to buy guns for him. He is a resident of New York. He can not purchase a gun in another state. The guns were purchased in AZ. Thus, Bloomy had someone buy guns for him in another state.janedoedad said:If he is not purchasing from a FFL, is it considered a straw purchase?gruntpain1775 said:Better question. Where doew he get the authority to investigate anything in other states? Why is he not being charged for straw purchase?
Strawman. Illegal.
I know it's a stretch. And perhaps my sarcasm hasn't really been conveyed here, but my stretch of the above law is equal to bloomberg stretching his interpretation of the "loophole".
I'm just having problems finding any definitive law saying that a straw purchase from a private transaction is illegal.
The video was irritating as hell to me. Purely meant to scare the sheeple i.e. The PI's asking the seller for a gun with a lot of 'stopping power' and that his main concern was 'concealbility'
Arrgghh..
Oh,and yes-your sarcasm came through just fine....
I am not sure of the straw purchase part through private sales, but if "Good Ole Blooming Onion" (yeah that IS my "respectful" name for him) wants to buy a pistol, he needs to have it added to his NYS license by a NYS FFl and apporved by the judge. OTHERWISE he is buying it illegally. Wait, as he wants to run for POTUS, this is really an attention grab to better his"record" (unfortunately we cant see where he has been prosecuted so i dont mean that kind of record. yet.)
NEW york law means nothing in Arizona. Open carry is the reason crime rates are way lower in Phoenix.
Link to updated article. Looks pretty much the same as the first. . . .
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bloomberg_gun_control
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bloomberg_gun_control
From Fark.com:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110131/us_nm/us_guns_sting
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110131/us_nm/us_guns_sting
:lol:Videos by Undercover NYC investigators document illegal gun sales a Phoenix, Az gun show. In other news, there is apparently so little crime in NYC that investigators have nothing better to do than police AZ gun shows.
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