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Well, if one chooses to reject election results after recounts* then call for armed insurrection**, then there aren't many remaining constitutional principles left to stand up for.
Recounts mean absolutely nothing if all you're doing is counting the original vote without verifying whether the votes cast are legal or illegal and whether the processes that delivered the original vote have built-in safeguards and audit trails to prevent illegal manipulations and shenanigans.

As for armed insurrection, that depends on how benevolent the new administration and its followers are going to be toward the loser's followers, doesn't it? That benevolence has been on display for the last 4+ years already. I bet even Ray Charles could see what might be coming down the pike in the not so distant future. I'm sure you know the quote about terrorists and freedom fighters.
 

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Recounts mean absolutely nothing if all you're doing is counting the original vote without verifying whether the votes cast are legal or illegal and whether the processes that delivered the original vote have built-in safeguards and audit trails to prevent illegal manipulations and shenanigans.
Just because Bigfoot is claimed to exist based on a null hypothesis logical fallacy doesn't make it so anymore than your insinuation of widespread voter fraud...
 

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Just because Bigfoot is claimed to exist based on a null hypothesis logical fallacy doesn't make it so anymore than your insinuation of widespread voter fraud...
Are you aware of the areas where Trump over performed? Those where Biden under performed? Vice versa? You give the impression of one with an above average IQ. Do you discount any possibility that voter fraud took place in amounts sufficient to swing this election?
 

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Are you aware of the areas where Trump over performed? Those where Biden under performed? Vice versa? You give the impression of one with an above average IQ. Do you discount any possibility that voter fraud took place in amounts sufficient to swing this election?
I'm a skeptic through and through but so far I have not found reports of proof of thousands of votes in thousands of precincts from people not on the rolls or dead voters or electronic votes not matching paper trail ballots or any other tangible allegations of actual fraud.*

Were there actually 6.2 million fraudulent votes cast? If so, where?
Let's narrow it down to the 280,000 vote differences in the 5 flip states. How many fraudulent votes have been identified?
Or is Bigfoot hiding with 290,000 Trump votes in those 5 states and that's the real explanation of the loss?

*"My candidate didn't do as well as I hoped therefore I declare shenanigans" isn't proof of actual fraud.
 

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Don't be so hard on yourself. Skeptic isn't the word I would apply to you anyway.
There are other more fitting descriptors.

Back on topic though. If you are ignoring all of the reports of "shenanigans" like places stopping vote count for no reason and then restarting with miraculous and statistically impossible number of votes "found" for Biden then you are staying purposefully ignorant. If you have taken all of the separate reported cases that are under investigation into account and still do not believe that massive voter fraud is a very possible and plausible reality then you're just a plain "one of those type".
 

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Don't be so hard on yourself. Skeptic isn't the word I would apply to you anyway.
There are other more fitting descriptors.

Back on topic though. If you are ignoring all of the reports of "shenanigans" like places stopping vote count for no reason and then restarting with miraculous and statistically impossible number of votes "found" for Biden then you are staying purposefully ignorant. If you have taken all of the separate reported cases that are under investigation into account and still do not believe that massive voter fraud is a very possible and plausible reality then you're just a plain "one of those type".
What type are "those type" ?

Show me a number that is "statistically impossible" and the evidence you have to prove it exists and is statistically impossible.
 

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Read the full sentence that ends with those words. Seems self explanatory.

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What type are "those type" ?

Show me a number that is "statistically impossible" and the evidence you have to prove it exists and is statistically impossible.
Do your own homework or just remain ignorant. Makes no difference to me. You can just keep traveling down the road you have chosen. It is of no consequence to me.
 

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Do your own homework or just remain ignorant. Makes no difference to me. You can just keep traveling down the road you have chosen. It is of no consequence to me.
So, in other words you have no evidence. But that's usually the answer when you ask someone to prove their unfounded accusations. I have not chosen a road, but you have nothing to influence me....just like lots of others on here. Just lots of arm waving and unfounded claims. Why would I try to do any "homework" when I know that nothing exists to prove your claim. And you got nuttin' either ! So I guess you are just "one of those people" aren't you ?
 

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If you are ignoring all of the reports of "shenanigans" like places stopping vote count for no reason and then restarting with miraculous and statistically impossible number of votes "found" for Biden then you are staying purposefully ignorant. If you have taken all of the separate reported cases that are under investigation into account and still do not believe that massive voter fraud is a very possible and plausible reality then you're just a plain "one of those type".
If "statistically impossible" means "more votes cast than registered voters" then sure, it's a viable discussion so post some links to those sorts of things. If it means "counted votes didn't match polling expectations" then you're only offering reasons why Hillary should have been the 45th president. If it means "the tallies for Trump were worse than most other Republican races" then you have to equate a divergence from straight-ticket voting to fraud and that's just not a reasonable bar to clamber over.

Have I read reports? Yes. Did those reports stand up under scrutiny? No. Is there any aggregate of reports that would have had the potential to overturn as much as a single electoral vote? Nope.* Do I perceive the problem here to be sore losers running around repeating false Twitter accusations with no hard facts to back up the statements? Absolutely!

*Feel free to post links that would, in aggregate, overturn a single electoral vote if you are convinced I'm wrong.
 

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Just because Bigfoot is claimed to exist based on a null hypothesis logical fallacy doesn't make it so anymore than your insinuation of widespread voter fraud...
Another True Believer:copyright: of the legacy media. OK.

I get the feeling that there's an abundance of folks on this forum that are just dying for a Biden/Harris administration. That's always good to know.
 

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Another True Believer:copyright: of the legacy media. OK.

I get the feeling that there's an abundance of folks on this forum that are just dying for a Biden/Harris administration. That's always good to know.
Still waiting for links to all that widespread voter fraud that changes a single electoral vote.
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Still getting nothing but nastiest and hostility simply because I asked.
 

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The American people will soon suffer from the new Obama/Biden economy.

All is good today according to the Fake News Media.

I'd say the poor will get more poor. "Let them eat cake" said Marie Antoinette (she was a democrat).
 

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Still waiting for links to all that widespread voter fraud that changes a single electoral vote.
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Still getting nothing but nastiest and hostility simply because I asked.
You're incapable of using a search engine on your own?
 

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Is there a search engine that will return a result? All mine returns are statements by the DOJ that there is no such widespread voter fraud that would change any electoral votes. Oh, and The NY Times called officials in every state - none of whom thing the electoral votes will be changed in their state.

So . . .?
 

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You're incapable of using a search engine on your own?
Thanks once again for bringing nastiness and hostility to this forum. We covered my seeking in earlier posts, so that rules out ignorance doesn't it? My assertion is that there is no documentation that stands up to scrutiny about widespread voter fraud that would have impacted a single electoral vote. Please, I invite you to post some links and prove me wrong.
 
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