We saw lots of this today at the Farmers' Market gun show . . . by people who ought to know better. Those of us working the G.C.O. recruiting booth got swept several times - that I saw - by handguns, and a least once by a non-zip-tied shotgun. I know it wasn't secured, because the vendor kept working the pump action to demonstrate it - all the time (inadvertently) pointing it at us. I don't like that . . . .Going Postal said:
Bass Pro Shop visit
I spent part of the weekend at the Norcross Mariotte attending a conference. While there, I took the opportunity to visit the Bass Pro Shop. Man, they have a lot of guns. The only problem is that they sure do think a lot of them according to the prices I saw.
As I was going in, I saw a sign about a 10% military discount. While looking at the pistols, I asked the young man at the counter it it was also good for retirees. He told me that it is but not for electronics or guns. A very nice young man, he thanked me for my service and we talked a couple of minutes.
This is what kind of bothered me - while we were talking he pulled a 1911 out of the case and after he checked it, he started pointing it around the store. I know it was empty because I saw him clear it, but that just seemed like the wrong thing to do in a store with that many customers.
As I was going in, I saw a sign about a 10% military discount. While looking at the pistols, I asked the young man at the counter it it was also good for retirees. He told me that it is but not for electronics or guns. A very nice young man, he thanked me for my service and we talked a couple of minutes.
This is what kind of bothered me - while we were talking he pulled a 1911 out of the case and after he checked it, he started pointing it around the store. I know it was empty because I saw him clear it, but that just seemed like the wrong thing to do in a store with that many customers.
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Yup and look at all the thugs up there pointing guns around , knowing they can't buy one.One guy was filling out the paper work and I heard him say I hope it goes thru .Once I heard that I had to be poking around to see/hear . Sure enough it didn't come thru Positive side lol...You could look at this guy and Know he was not able to own a gun ! :lol: :lol:Teeter said:We saw lots of this today at the Farmers' Market gun show . . . by people who ought to know better. Those of us working the G.C.O. recruiting booth got swept several times - that I saw - by handguns, and a least once by a non-zip-tied shotgun. I know it wasn't secured, because the vendor kept working the pump action to demonstrate it - all the time (inadvertently) pointing it at us. I don't like that . . . .Going Postal said:while we were talking he pulled a 1911 out of the case and after he checked it, he started pointing it around the store. I know it was empty because I saw him clear it, but that just seemed like the wrong thing to do in a store with that many customers.
I was at a local range Thursday and was swept on two different occasions by the same FN SCAR being finger-banged by two different people. I was tempted to pull my SCAR out and point back; see how things felt from their end.
I try to just accept the fact people are pointing guns all over the place at gun shows although it bothers me. You should have told the guy at the Bass Pro Shop to be a little more mindful of how he handles the firearm.
So on the side note... please explain how can you identify thugs at gun shows? Did he have a shirt with his police mug shot on it?
So on the side note... please explain how can you identify thugs at gun shows? Did he have a shirt with his police mug shot on it?
They usually run in packs and wear a combination of hats on sideways, pants hanging at the knees, aiming pistol when turned on it's side, no pointing discipline, rude/every other word M/F'er or F'er, orange jumpsuit formal wear, the "no bath in 10 days" fragrence and yes, possibly their own police mugshot on their T-shirts.Atlanta777 said:So on the side note... please explain how can you identify thugs at gun shows? Did he have a shirt with his police mug shot on it?
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Glad I was not there I'd of said something to him. :-xTeeter said:We saw lots of this today at the Farmers' Market gun show . . . by people who ought to know better. Those of us working the G.C.O. recruiting booth got swept several times - that I saw - by handguns, and a least once by a non-zip-tied shotgun. I know it wasn't secured, because the vendor kept working the pump action to demonstrate it - all the time (inadvertently) pointing it at us. I don't like that . . . .Going Postal said:while we were talking he pulled a 1911 out of the case and after he checked it, he started pointing it around the store. I know it was empty because I saw him clear it, but that just seemed like the wrong thing to do in a store with that many customers.
They usually run in packs and wear a combination of hats on sideways, pants hanging at the knees, aiming pistol when turned on it's side, no pointing discipline, rude/every other word M/F'er or F'er, orange jumpsuit formal wear, the "no bath in 10 days" fragrence and yes, possibly their own police mugshot on their T-shirts.
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I doubt anyone one like that was there, stop the bs
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I doubt anyone one like that was there, stop the bs
I have to say one thing. The pants hanging around the ankles give the police an advantage! If they run they usually fall down in mid sprint. If they are packing you can see the gun since it will be located down around the ankle area.
You may be surprised that most thugs don't fit the common description of them. Yes, the robbers do, but the ones that kill the most people, look absolutely ordinary. Booked in a doctor once that reminded me heavily of my grandfather, except this dud killed his wife and buried her under the floor. Go figure. Judge people by their actions and not their appearance.
:righton:darkstar3d said:Judge people by their actions and not their appearance.
Sorry but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck I'm not going to assume its anything else.darkstar3d said:You may be surprised that most thugs don't fit the common description of them. Yes, the robbers do, but the ones that kill the most people, look absolutely ordinary. Booked in a doctor once that reminded me heavily of my grandfather, except this dud killed his wife and buried her under the floor. Go figure. Judge people by their actions and not their appearance.
And you have some empirical evidence of this statement of fact you can point us to I trust?darkstar3d said:You may be surprised that most thugs don't fit the common description of them. Yes, the robbers do, but the ones that kill the most people, look absolutely ordinary.
Here's all the proof you need. Look at the names and check some of the pics. The nastiest monsters are NEVER the easy to spot "thugs".livesounder said:And you have some empirical evidence of this statement of fact you can point us to I trust?darkstar3d said:You may be surprised that most thugs don't fit the common description of them. Yes, the robbers do, but the ones that kill the most people, look absolutely ordinary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:A ... al_killers
I watched three dudes tackle and cuff a guy at a gun show in savannah ( held at the shriners building). Apparently he was a felon and the cops were watching him. Scooped him up as soon as he picked up a gun.
While that's far from proof, I'm not questioning darkstars' second statement as much as his first (given that was the context of the thread).mathar1 said:Here's all the proof you need. Look at the names and check some of the pics. The nastiest monsters are NEVER the easy to spot "thugs".livesounder said:And you have some empirical evidence of this statement of fact you can point us to I trust?darkstar3d said:You may be surprised that most thugs don't fit the common description of them. Yes, the robbers do, but the ones that kill the most people, look absolutely ordinary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:A ... al_killers
My statement is based purely on my history as an soldier, LEO, and citizen. The majority of the occupants of a jail look as normal as anyone. Those are the most effective thugs because they don't appear to be thugs. I often ask young men at my university, why do they dress like thugs and they say its a cool look. I severely disagree with that assessment and another classmate told them that their dress automatically gets them labeled as a bad guy. Their own interactions with LE proves that to be factual, but they still dress the way they do.livesounder said:While that's far from proof, I'm not questioning darkstars' second statement as much as his first (given that was the context of the thread).mathar1 said:Here's all the proof you need. Look at the names and check some of the pics. The nastiest monsters are NEVER the easy to spot "thugs".livesounder said:And you have some empirical evidence of this statement of fact you can point us to I trust?darkstar3d said:You may be surprised that most thugs don't fit the common description of them. Yes, the robbers do, but the ones that kill the most people, look absolutely ordinary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:A ... al_killers
One odd day we were called because a woman had some items stolen from her home. She swore it was one of the many black youths around her. In metro Atlanta, that is an easy assumption but as we were filling out the report, we noticed that the only person taking an extreme interest in what we were doing didn't fit the black youth category. When we went to talk, he ran, got caught, and took us to the pawn shop where he sold the items. A thug who didn't look like a thug.
The thug who was on my back deck and breaking into homes in my neighborhood turned out to be a very clean cut, well dressed young man. He had been spotted dozens of times, but was ignored because he was a clean cut white boy. When he was caught, the woman that caught him at first assumed that her husband had let him in, until she realized that her husband had left over an hour ago. His buddy was caught later the next day. Clean cut, well dressed, well mannered, white boys, had broken into a dozen homes and cars (not broken into, only the unlocked ones) and ignored.
This are of course just a few of my own experiences and I must live by them and not the stereotypical attitude held by many. I will continue to judge by the actions and not the appearance.
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