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Earlier this week, I went to my nearby 100 yd public range to set my POA at 6:00, at 30 meters, with my iron sights. Today I went to the gun club to see how I could do at 100, 200, 300, and 400 yds. Everything was shot off of a table using my ammo box/airsoft bb sock gun rest.


Here’s the rifle:


Here’s the ammunition I started with:


I put one 17†target on the #15 target backer at 100, 200, 300, and 400 yds.


I tried to touch the top edge of the front post to the bottom of the orange circle, using the #2 rear sight aperture.


Next I tried to touch the top edge of the front post to the bottom of the target, using the #2 rear aperture again. At this distance, the target is about the width of the front post.


Then I fired five rounds each at the targets at 300 and 400 yds. However, I forgot to change the rear sight aperture, so none of the shots hit the targets. D’oh! So, I went back to the front target again, using the same sight picture and aperture as before.


And then, a second set of five rounds at 200 yds (#2 aperture).


This time I remembered to dial in the #3 rear sight aperture. At this distance the target is a little smaller than the width of the front post (five rounds).


I’m not sure how I shot my best 400 yd group on this attempt. I could barely see the black target on the light brown backer. And, at that distance, the front post can cover the entire backer board. (#4 aperture)


I only had 10 rounds of German surplus ammunition left, so I started at 400 yds on this turn. I also stuck the target on a white background to try and see it better. It didn’t seem to help. (five shots)


And then, the last five rounds of German surplus at 300 yds.
 

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Now all I had with me was Wolf Polyformance steel-cased ammunition:


I used the same sight picture and aperture as before on each target.



Because of the shot placement on the previous 100 yds, I moved the top of the front post down just a little this time. I got a pretty good group, but it wasn’t on the bulls-eye. (#2 aperture)


I used the same sight pictures and apertures at 200, 300, or 400 yds. I got another low group at 200 yds, and marginal results at 300 and 400 yds.




Then I finished off the box of ammo (10 rounds) on a 23†x 35†silhouette at 400 yds.
 

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Does this rifle have adjustable front sight post? and can you adjust windage on the rear sight?

Because of the shot placement on the previous 100 yds, I moved the top of the front post down just a little this time. I got a pretty good group, but it wasn’t on the bulls-eye. (#2 aperture)
 

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Does this rifle have adjustable front sight post? and can you adjust windage on the rear sight?
No, the front sight post isn't adjustable. You make elevation and windage adjustments on the rear sight.
 

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if you are shooting low adjust elevation down, should bring front sight up! I'm just going off of my 13 years shooting the m16 in the marine corps. I'm no rifle expert by no means. I shot marksman 4 years straight, but then again I was shooting about 1,000 rounds a week for 3 months before we qualified. The quicker I qualified on Thursday the more time off I had for the weekend! went to air wing for 9 years and shot once a year.
 

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if you are shooting low adjust elevation down, should bring front sight up!
What I was trying to say was, since the first string with the Wolf ammo at 100 yds was above the bulls-eye, I aimed a little lower the next time. I didn't actually adjust the elevation at all.
 

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That is good shooting for that rifle, using that ammunition, using iron sights at that distance. Anybody who says differently has probably never even tried shooting at 400 yards. I think that is excellent shooting.
 

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Yep

That's good shooting for a field-grade military battle rifle with standard iron sights. And cheap ammo.

I know that ammunition choice means a lot. My national match M1-A shoots nickel sized groups at 100 yards with federal 308 GM (168 gr. Match bullet).

With 1980's foreign mil-surp 147 gr. FMJ ammo, it can't shoot tighter than 3.5" at 100 yards. Both of those stats are from shooting it scoped, at 4X.

It looks like you and your rifle with ordinary ammo can hit a man size target most of the time at a quarter mile. That's impressive. And that's really all any military expects of it soldiers in the field.
The "rifleman's quarter-mile" as they call it is also the goal of the Appleseed rifleman marksmanship training program.
 

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That is good shooting for that rifle, using that ammunition, using iron sights at that distance. Anybody who says differently has probably never even tried shooting at 400 yards. I think that is excellent shooting.
Thank you! And, do you mind if I use that as my new signature? :)
 

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That's good shooting for a field-grade military battle rifle with standard iron sights. And cheap ammo.

It looks like you and your rifle with ordinary ammo can hit a man size target most of the time at a quarter mile. That's impressive.
Thanks! I'd like to be able to consistent hits at distance from the standing, knelling, and prone position.
 

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That is good shooting for that rifle, using that ammunition, using iron sights at that distance. Anybody who says differently has probably never even tried shooting at 400 yards. I think that is excellent shooting.
What's impressive is that he's using "normal" size targets that we can all buy locally. When I shot NRA Hi Power some of the targets were around 6' square (best I can recall) for 600 yards. Rjinga's becoming scary! :lol:
 

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What's impressive is that he's using "normal" size targets that we can all buy locally. When I shot NRA Hi Power some of the targets were around 6' square (best I can recall) for 600 yards. Rjinga's becoming scary! :lol:
Thanks! I think we're seeing a convergence of two old adages: "aim small, miss small;" and, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while." :lol:
 
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