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http://www.officer.com/article/article. ... eSection=1

Updated: May 24th, 2007 10:44 AM PDT

MESA, Ariz. (AP) -- Gov. Janet Napolitano has signed a bill into law prohibiting any government body from preventing state-certified police officers from carrying a gun.

Currently policy doesn't allow certified officers who patrol Maricopa County community college campuses to carry firearms.

"We felt extremely vulnerable because we have gun instances all the time," said Lynn Bray, acting director of security at Mesa Community College and a 20-year Mesa police officer. "I've taken concealed weapons off people all the time."

"It's quite ridiculous. Why hire police officers if you're not going to give them the tools to do their job?" Bray said.

Arming police officers is just one change coming to the community colleges.

Bray said the college has spent the past six months implementing aphone system that can convert telephones into loud-speakers with thepush of a button.

The system could be activated to warn the campus of emergencies. Within the next year, Bray said officials will also create a loudspeaker system for common areas and install electronic bulletin boards forthe hearing impaired.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
Ironic. Apparently, Arizona does not allow non-LEOs to carry at colleges.
Only because they can't handle the fo-tay.
 

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I give AZ credit for being so active with Gun Rights. Atleast they are thinking about this sort of thing. I wish more states were like this...
 

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How does arming government agents relate to "being so active with gun rights?"
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
How does arming government agents relate to "being so active with gun rights?"
Let me clarify:

Whether or not you agree with arming government agents (Who should be armed) is beside the point. The point is that AZ is actively thinking about how to best protect its citizens with firearms on college campuses according to this article. Now whether you agree with how they do it is up to you, but Im sure they will be one of the few that even touches the "guns on campus" argument for a while. I agree that anyone with a license should carry, however you should arm LEO's first as a step in that direction. I dont have a problem with arming agents, but I would eventually also like to see licensed citizens able to carry as well. :2cents:
 

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Well, that logic worked with HR 218, so, it should work . . . oh, wait . . .
 

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Dan, it is not that I disagree with arming police. I just think it is naive to think this somehow leads to an armed citizenry.

The two concepts are not related.

In fact, it is probably the rise of the modern police state more than anything else that has resulted in disarming the citizenry. It has also resulted in people not wanting to get involved whenever something bad happens. People see that as the job of the armed police officer.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
Dan, it is not that I disagree with arming police. I just think it is naive to think this somehow leads to an armed citizenry.

The two concepts are not related.

In fact, it is probably the rise of the modern police state more than anything else that has resulted in disarming the citizenry. It has also resulted in people not wanting to get involved whenever something bad happens. People see that as the job of the armed police officer.
I agree, that it is not their job. However you cannot arm citizens before your arm LEO's in our society unfortunately. I understand what you are saying and I agree with you. My question is, what do you propose we do that is realistic to address the issue stated above?
 

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Dan H said:
My question is, what do you propose we do that is realistic to address the issue stated above?
I bet we find out before the next half of the state legistation meets up again. :D
 

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Dan H said:
. . . what do you propose we do . . .
Laws apply equally.

LEOs subject to same laws as the rest of us. If they are good laws, then they should apply to everyone. If they are bad laws, then they should apply to nobody.

I feel the same way about Congress and their exemption from social security taxes.
 

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I stated this in another thread but generally speaking LE does not show up until after a crime has been committed. Why? Because they are simply not enough LEO's to cover where you want them to be. Whether it be your local neigborhood or your local College campus.
 

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GeorgiaGlocker said:
"We felt extremely vulnerable because we have gun instances all the time," said Lynn Bray, acting director of security at Mesa Community College and a 20-year Mesa police officer. "I've taken concealed weapons off people all the time."
English 101 would be a good start for Lynn Bray. :? Do they get a discount for working at the campus?
 
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