I say we create a committee and have gatherings to draw up NEW and PRECISE gun laws for GA. We could then have them professionally drafted and ready to be read by the powers to be. I think getting together and doing the work for them is the only way to get it done. They themselves probably have a good bit on their plates and GA gun laws might be on a back burner so to speak. This could work, they could read them, see no arguable positions/or make some suggestions and finally put them up for adoption! So what do you say? Are you guys up to this HEAVY task or am just making my fingers tired typing this up?
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Target #1 should be the public gathering restriction.
Target #1 should be the public gathering restriction.
I'm saying that I don't like your law, because if I'm going to be disarmed in any location, the law better require those places to maintain secure areas for me to leave my gun. I'd rather not be disarmed at all, though I understand why those two should be treated as special cases.
Budder, cool. I would hope that WE as a people come together and be functional about this whole idea. I think once started we could take it somewhere.
EX: Each county has a meeting to pull together ideas for GA gun laws. Each meeting would have a copy of the law and it will be scrutinized by THE PEOPLE its for. Then it can go from county to a set up disrtict of the state that we could draw up. Make the laws go through a tournament bracket and make the final set a clear and concise set of laws that have been conjured up by [once again] THE PEOPLE.
Anyone agaisnt or for this please speak.
EX: Each county has a meeting to pull together ideas for GA gun laws. Each meeting would have a copy of the law and it will be scrutinized by THE PEOPLE its for. Then it can go from county to a set up disrtict of the state that we could draw up. Make the laws go through a tournament bracket and make the final set a clear and concise set of laws that have been conjured up by [once again] THE PEOPLE.
Anyone agaisnt or for this please speak.
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Fundamental Change or Clean-Up?
I don't think there is any political support for what would be perceived as a sweeping reform of Georgia's gun control laws. So I don't think we should waste our time coming up with a new law that would make a bunch of big changes all at once.
We got into this mess a little bit at a time, over many years. We can reverse the process the same way, and we've already had some success. Win a battle here, win a battle there, next thing you know we've taken a lot of ground and are in a secure position.
I suggest taking the phrase "public gatherings" out of the law and only outlawing guns at a few specific locations, with a requirement for both proper signage and allowing for safe storage of weapons on premises (or legalizing leaving it in a vehicle in the parking lot, if disabled or locked).
Let's change the hijacking law to add an element of "intent to commit or aid in the commission of a crime of violence." That way it wouldn't be any crime at all, or at most a "public gathering / public building" misdemeanor to carry on Marta, on Greyhound, or at an airport terminal.
Let's legalize carry in state parks and campsites and wilderness areas, including restrooms and government-operated buildings at those locations. If necessary, add some language to clarify that poaching game out of season is still illegal, and allow for the confiscation and civil forfeiture of any firearm that appears to be carried or used for poaching.
Speaking of restrooms, specifically allow carry in highway rest stop buildings and visitor information center buildings, even if they are gov't owned or operated.
Restaurant carry should be legal for those who either aren't drinking at all or who do not drink enough to be impaired-- and we can use the exact same standards for determing "packing while intoxicated" as we currently have for "driving under the influence."
The above changes should not be too controversial, but they will have the effect of making things much, much easier for law-abiding citizens with gun permits who want to keep "law abiding."
I don't think there is any political support for what would be perceived as a sweeping reform of Georgia's gun control laws. So I don't think we should waste our time coming up with a new law that would make a bunch of big changes all at once.
We got into this mess a little bit at a time, over many years. We can reverse the process the same way, and we've already had some success. Win a battle here, win a battle there, next thing you know we've taken a lot of ground and are in a secure position.
I suggest taking the phrase "public gatherings" out of the law and only outlawing guns at a few specific locations, with a requirement for both proper signage and allowing for safe storage of weapons on premises (or legalizing leaving it in a vehicle in the parking lot, if disabled or locked).
Let's change the hijacking law to add an element of "intent to commit or aid in the commission of a crime of violence." That way it wouldn't be any crime at all, or at most a "public gathering / public building" misdemeanor to carry on Marta, on Greyhound, or at an airport terminal.
Let's legalize carry in state parks and campsites and wilderness areas, including restrooms and government-operated buildings at those locations. If necessary, add some language to clarify that poaching game out of season is still illegal, and allow for the confiscation and civil forfeiture of any firearm that appears to be carried or used for poaching.
Speaking of restrooms, specifically allow carry in highway rest stop buildings and visitor information center buildings, even if they are gov't owned or operated.
Restaurant carry should be legal for those who either aren't drinking at all or who do not drink enough to be impaired-- and we can use the exact same standards for determing "packing while intoxicated" as we currently have for "driving under the influence."
The above changes should not be too controversial, but they will have the effect of making things much, much easier for law-abiding citizens with gun permits who want to keep "law abiding."
I wouldnt suggest a "sweeping" of GA gun laws. Just a touch up on what it should be. Change it here and there as you have suggested. If that was done and had everyone signature on it and was presented to oh say... Timothy J. Bearden :wink: I think it would definately help.
(gizmo5: This is kind of a response to your PM.)
While I'd like to see Georgia have firearms laws that mirror Alaska, I'm don't think that's doable in one shot. One of the problems with 'committiees' is you eventually get the lowest common denomenator. A sausage of nothing.
Personally, with in the next couple of years the one thing I'd like to see passed is unlicensed open carry with the only restrictions being those that are 1) Federal (i.e. schools, nuculear plants, etc.) and; 2) Court rooms with state provided gun check no more than 10 feet away from the Court room entrance door. No other open carry restrictions, either by State law or local regulation or ordinance.
Now, having aired my personal oppinion, I think GeorgaCarry has been doing a bang-up job and would be hesitant to stick my fingers in and gum up the works. The opponents of GCO have been doing a good enough job with out me helping.
While I'd like to see Georgia have firearms laws that mirror Alaska, I'm don't think that's doable in one shot. One of the problems with 'committiees' is you eventually get the lowest common denomenator. A sausage of nothing.
Personally, with in the next couple of years the one thing I'd like to see passed is unlicensed open carry with the only restrictions being those that are 1) Federal (i.e. schools, nuculear plants, etc.) and; 2) Court rooms with state provided gun check no more than 10 feet away from the Court room entrance door. No other open carry restrictions, either by State law or local regulation or ordinance.
Now, having aired my personal oppinion, I think GeorgaCarry has been doing a bang-up job and would be hesitant to stick my fingers in and gum up the works. The opponents of GCO have been doing a good enough job with out me helping.
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It has to be sweeping. Bearden mentioned that if you ask for a little change here or there the politicians will say don’t bother us for a few years.
We have to start with good propaganda (e.g., we need the laws of these liberal states California and Connecticut). If we could afford to advertise and educate the public, it could cause a stir.
This is a good start:
All firearms, handguns, and dangerous weapons are prohibited in courthouses and jails.
If the politicians freak out over it, it’s ok, than let’s add Powerplants to the list. If the politicians need a Gun Free Zone, sure, let’s add the capitol as a killing zone. Better to endanger the elected officials who vote for it than the citizens.
We have to start with good propaganda (e.g., we need the laws of these liberal states California and Connecticut). If we could afford to advertise and educate the public, it could cause a stir.
This is a good start:
All firearms, handguns, and dangerous weapons are prohibited in courthouses and jails.
If the politicians freak out over it, it’s ok, than let’s add Powerplants to the list. If the politicians need a Gun Free Zone, sure, let’s add the capitol as a killing zone. Better to endanger the elected officials who vote for it than the citizens.
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i heard bearden say to not shave away at the laws but i can't help thinking that we'd be more successful getting them changed for the better a little bit at a time. i'd be happy, at least of a little while, if we could just get the public gathering and maybe the transportation laws reformed the next session.
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