Are you armed when you FPV?

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by futureusr, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    I am. Particularly around Atlanta. FPV freestyle is a blast. Defending yourself is cool too. Check out the video below. One of the current greats in FPV encounters a train and works up to more and more incredible maneuvers. Is he gonna go under it? Is he? no way! If you are interested, I can point ya in the right direction.

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  2. GoDores

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    I don’t suppose there’s the slightest chance this was flown with the permission and cooperation of the property owner and train operator, and in compliance with 14CFR107?

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  3. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    It was, flown in compliance with FAA part 101 I believe. Was there any risk to the train or train operator? I am unfamiliar with regulations to obtain permission to fly over trains.
     
  4. GAfirearmsReference

    GAfirearmsReference Weapons Law Booklet

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    I don’t think it’s a good idea to be armed while you are harassing, or potentially interfering with, a commercial vehicle involved in interstate commerce .
    There are probably federal laws against that, and it’s likely that those federal laws trigger mandatory prison penalties if you violate them while armed
     
  5. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    Here is a completely FAA compliant freestyle video. Much less skilled and much more local.

     
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  6. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    This video has been debated all over the net. And has drawn the attention of the authoritarians. After much debate, apparently no laws were broken. But that does not satisfy the crotchety get off my lawn crowd.
     
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  7. GAfirearmsReference

    GAfirearmsReference Weapons Law Booklet

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    Well let me ask you this —did the person who took this video research all the laws before he this course of action with his drone, or did he commit the act first and then just cross his fingers and hope there wasn’t some federal law against it ?

    If you’re the kind of gun owner that brags about carrying your gun every place you go and while you do every activity, then maybe you should do your research on whether things are illegal or not ahead of time.

    In this case, if your review of some other guy’s well-publicized stunt lets you say with confidence that it certainly is legal, great. I hope you put in that level of “due diligence” for all other questionable activities that you engage in while armed.
     
  8. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    I appreciate your concern. Seems more self flatulating than genuine tho.
     
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  9. Taurus92

    Taurus92 Well-Known Member

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    Oh crap, I just cut up an apple and put it in my oatmeal without doing due diligence of checking the OCGA AND the Federal list of laws.
     
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  10. jsaund22

    jsaund22 Ninjaneering Computers

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    I think I know that patch... ;)
     
  11. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    jsaund22, interested in FPV? Have we met before? I am a bit of a introvert so not surprising if we have not.
     
  12. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    Statist gunna state
     
  13. GoDores

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    The video has 1.5 million views and the person who posted it thanked sponsors. No way that operation qualifies under pt101. And I think it's extremely unlikely (although I acknowledge not impossible) that it was compliant with pt107.

    Aviation regulations aside, the guy didn't just fly "over" the train - he flew over it, alongside it, under it, inside it, and at one point landed on it. At the very least that's trespassing (assuming no permission) and with trains being federally regulated there's likely some violation of a federal railway regulation as well.

    The risk is probably quite low but not zero, although the train owner should have been involved in making that assessment. And it's extremely unlikely that anyone would go after the operator since nothing bad happened. But if something had happened, or the train owner were particularly unhappy about the video contents, the drone operator gave the feds plenty of rope with which to hang himself. The FAA has had no compunction about going after people who video themselves violating federal law and posting it on the Internet.
     
  14. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    Posting about it and making the connection to gun carry by saying “ I always carry a gun when I do this sort of thing.”
    That puts all of us gun-packers and 2A advocates in a bad light.
     
  15. jsaund22

    jsaund22 Ninjaneering Computers

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    Not so much in FPV, but I do have an interest in drones. We haven't met, but hell, we live in the same town - we should.
     
  16. futureusr

    futureusr A Typical Cat

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    lol, how so? If you FPV you should not 2A? by what logic? Posting a video of some guy doing FPV and stating I am normally armed when I FPV shines a bad light on 2A? Whiskey Foxtrot Tango man... It is your curmudgeonly nature making this association. Were I performing any other legal activity it would not be frowned upon. And this is a legal activity, the video was not illegal, there were no laws against it. My sharing it does not condone illegal activity as there is none here. Tho there is a lot of speculation and conjecture and panties in crevices it seems.