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Two comments:
(1) 9mm
(2) Notice you have to get pretty deep into the story to discover that the officer was shot with his own gun.

Either way, this is an inspiring story.

Bullet in the head, not a career killer for Atlanta cop
The slim 24-year-old officer hesitated, not wanting to pull his gun and fire at the suspect, but the larger man with a criminal past obviously didn't think twice before firing several rounds at the officer, leaving him for dead.
 

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Until this year, the most time somebody could get for "attempted murder" was 10 years. Why? Because they consider murder a 20-year crime (even though it can get you life, life w/o parole, or death penalty), and the "criminal attempt" statute said that for most crimes, the "attempt" to do it only carries half the penalty. That's why crimes that would appear to be "attempted murder" were normally charged as aggravated assault or aggravated battery (both 20-year crimes).

But NOW, a new law has taken effect making attempted murder a 30-year crime. So the penalty for shooting someone, or shooting AT someone, but not killing them, has just gone up significantly. Had this law been in effect in 1989, the cop-shooter would be getting out of prison in 2019 (at age 65) instead of in 2009.

P.S. Nobody can say that a 9mm to the head is not an effective manstopper. Even though this officer lived, there is no doubt that he was incapacitated by the wound. The fight ended right then and there.
 

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MP, as you already know, logic dictates that just because a 9mm round didn't kill him, it doesn't mean any other round might have.

A few months ago we had a news story where a guy was shot by an ex-cop multiple times, one in the temple and he lived. IIRC, it was a .40 S&W.

As Firearmz put it perfectly once, shooting in the head is tricky since it's like a protected cage up there. I totally agree with this, God's creation is more perfect than we give it credit for, even against a 1200 fps projectile.
 

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I have a huge collection of news stories about people taking 230 grain bullets to the brain and surviving. I'll have to post the list sometime.

:D
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
I have a huge collection of news stories about people taking 230 grain bullets to the brain and surviving. I'll have to post the list sometime.

:D
We don't need that kind of sarcasm on the forums. It's common knowledge that few people are shot with .45 in the head because only the crappiest shooters carry it.
 

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tace said:
MP, as you already know, logic dictates that just because a 9mm round didn't kill him, it doesn't mean any other round might have.

A few months ago we had a news story where a guy was shot by an ex-cop multiple times, one in the temple and he lived. IIRC, it was a .40 S&W.

As Firearmz put it perfectly once, shooting in the head is tricky since it's like a protected cage up there. I totally agree with this, God's creation is more perfect than we give it credit for, even against a 1200 fps projectile.
A wise man said "No matter what pistol caliber is used, what ever the perp was doing before you shot him he will be doing after you shoot him".

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budder said:
Malum Prohibitum said:
I have a huge collection of news stories about people taking 230 grain bullets to the brain and surviving. I'll have to post the list sometime.

:D
We don't need that kind of sarcasm on the forums. It's common knowledge that few people are shot with .45 in the head because only the crappiest shooters carry it.
Man are you so getting a smackin.
 

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budder said:
Malum Prohibitum said:
budder said:
only the crappiest shooters carry it.
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Okay, you got me; you're the only one I can think of that carries .45. My sampling isn't nearly big enough to be completely reliable, but there is a definite trend with the data I have so far.
Hey, my daily carry is a Glock 30 (.45). But since no one has seen me shoot yet, I guess I get a free pass.
 

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budder said:
Okay, you got me; you're the only one I can think of that carries .45. My sampling isn't nearly big enough to be completely reliable, but there is a definite trend with the data I have so far.
I got you again. :D

You have never seen me shoot.

For all you know, I have never shot a gun in my life.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
You have never seen me shoot.

For all you know, I have never shot a gun in my life.
Sorry budder, but I would be careful with your line on this one. I have seen him shoot that .45. You wouldn't wanna be anywhere on the business side of that gun.

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Perhaps Budder would like to place a small wager on his shooting skills at one of our shoots. Say him and his 9 vs me and my .45 on identical targets at a distance of his choice?
 

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Budder, you don't remember my 1911 out there? All three of mine are .45, and the woman wants to upgrade to it as well. That'll be four you know.
 

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budder said:
Okay, you got me; you're the only one I can think of that carries .45. My sampling isn't nearly big enough to be completely reliable, but there is a definite trend with the data I have so far.
I got you again. :D

You have never seen me shoot.

For all you know, I have never shot a gun in my life.
I'm just going based off your reputation. I know your eyes can't be working right, since you bought that T.I.E.
 

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Budder, you don't remember my 1911 out there? All three of mine are .45, and the woman wants to upgrade to it as well. That'll be four you know.
I am sure he remembers but that's why he said "because only the crappiest shooters carry it."

:shoot: :rotfl:
 

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I hit the bad guy every time :) . Far more accurate with the XD, oddly enough.

Back on story, I find it of note that fellow officers joined in the "we don't want him on duty" pig pile back in the mid 90s. Protection of overtime and all that, I bet. Talk about an underhanded punch to the jewels.

Hopefully he's applied some of his lessons on situational awareness and the buddy system to his charges in Underground Atlanta.
 
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