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Some interesting wording in a memo sent out by my Apartment Management.

The memo contained information about a break in to another unit where in addition to other items a "9mm Westchester semi-automatic." was stolen.

Also this was in the Memo:

"In an unrelated incident, at just before 10:00am, a resident, while cleaning his registered personal hand gun, discharge the weapon, shooting himself in the leg. Emergency personnel arrived immediately on scene and escorted resident to the hospital. The resident suffered only minor injury."

My Thoughts:
I don't know what they mean by "registered".
How do you clean your weapon with a round in the chamber?

Questions:
Has any heard of a 9mm Westchester semi-automatic? Do they mean Winchester? Does Winchester even make a 9mm handgun?
I wonder what gun was used in the neglected discharge?
 

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Registered = legally owned in the minds of those that aren't familiar with gun ownership.

I don't know of any Winchester semi-auto handguns that have been made. Not anytime in the last thirty years, at least.

Why disclose the theft of a handgun? To vilify the owner that lost his property for owning a firearm? Obviously we all know that criminals carry and steal guns so that's not exactly a news flash.
 

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moga said:
Registered = legally owned in the minds of those that aren't familiar with gun ownership.

I don't know of any Winchester semi-auto handguns that have been made. Not anytime in the last thirty years, at least.

Why disclose the theft of a handgun? To vilify the owner that lost his property for owning a firearm? Obviously we all know that criminals carry and steal guns so that's not exactly a news flash.
I should of given the whole line from the memo. "The following items were found missing: 1 laptop computer, Play Station 3 with games, Personal jewelry, checkbook, and a 9mm westchester semi-automatic."

I don't know who's apartment was broken into but it would be interesting if the tenant was asked if they could include a list of items stolen in the Memo or if the apartment complex just went ahead with out discussing it with him/her.

Moga was your comment about vilify direct towards me, the apartment complex or both?
 

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No, not toward you OP. My comment is directed toward the Apt complex staff.

Knowing that management disclosed the full inventory of items stolen puts a different complexion on my interpretation of their disclosure. Just curious, do they always inform everyone when ever items are stolen from a tenant rental unit?
 

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moga said:
No, not toward you OP. My comment is directed toward the Apt complex staff.

Knowing that management disclosed the full inventory of items stolen puts a different complexion on my interpretation of their disclosure. Just curious, do they always inform everyone when ever items are stolen from a tenant rental unit?
Since April 1st there has been 5 memo's concerning break ins. In all five there is a one or two sentences inventory of items that are missing. So it seems they have been informing everyone of the items stolen. I can not say they are listing every item but in each memo but they are at listing some.
 

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XD9SC said:
I don't know what they mean by "registered".
Maybe the apt complex requires that weapons be registered with them? Have you read your rental agreement thoroughly?
 

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sounds like a crappy apt complex. As for the 9mm winchester, they made rifles that used 9mm rounds. Might be a possibility.
 

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my rental agreement says no weapons allowed*


*unlesss authorized by law.
 

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whitmo said:
XD9SC said:
I don't know what they mean by "registered".
Maybe the apt complex requires that weapons be registered with them? Have you read your rental agreement thoroughly?
I can not say for sure. I will reread my agreement tonight. I do recall no flammable materials (I guess the gas stove that is in all the apartments does not count).
 

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You know, the famous 9mm handguns of Westchester, New York. Surprised you've never heard of 'em.
 

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Those locks are a joke. Anyone who can see can get those codes when a resident is entering them.
Not to mention their ineffectiveness if the perpetrators live in the complex.
I'm sure the apartment complex has laws prohibiting criminals from living there, so clearly this is not the case. :)
 

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ookoshi said:
CoffeeMate said:
streetriots said:
Those locks are a joke. Anyone who can see can get those codes when a resident is entering them.
Not to mention their ineffectiveness if the perpetrators live in the complex.
I'm sure the apartment complex has laws prohibiting criminals from living there, so clearly this is not the case. :)
What about their policy regarding criminals working in the complex?
 

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I bet they are confusing S&W for Winchester.
 

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Blinkhorn said the management also hired a security guard, but she still does not feel safe.
An side note, the couple times I have see the extra enforcement guy he was carrying a snub nose revolver(I have not had the chance to ask him what make and model) but I didn't see any speed loaders.

Hopefully 5 or 6 shots will be enough for him if he ever needs to use force.
 

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Yeah, they need to start looking within.....

Thieves that keep getting past security measures with ease and are able to case places within a gated community are typically not street urchins, but people with familiarity of the situation.

The guys robbing a place usually aren't gangsters roaming the streets who just happened to choose your place, they are the cable guys, the maintenance workers, or even residents who have been/seen inside, know what you have that can be grabbed quickly, and may be familiar with when you are not home. This is why most of my valuables (and all of my firearms) are hidden when maintenance comes by, and they are always under strict supervision. The maintenance guys at our place are wonderful people, but I still don't allow them access when no one is home. Plus we have a dog, so even if they wanted to get in without us there, they hear the dog barking and opt not to. We also keep the blinds down to prevent anyone else from being able to see in and case the place.

Also, I loved the resident's comment about the stolen 9mm whatever it is about how now there's someone roaming around with a gun in their peaceful community..... newsflash, the thieves are most likely already armed.
 
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