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Antique revolver used in Wendy's holdup

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An 8 mm revolver manufactured in 1892 was one of two weapons used to hold up a Lilburn Wendy’s Wednesday night, police said.
I wonder if they were able to acquire this weapon by way of the so-called 'Gun Show Loophole', or they just stole it like most crooks?
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I wonder if they even had any ammo for the gun.
Well, if it worked well back then, it should've worked now. :lol:
I wonder if he threatened to "bust a cap."
That firearm is C&R Eligible.
mountainpass said:
That firearm is C&R Eligible.
Actually, no it's not.

Because of its age it is considered an antique firearm under federal law and is regulated a lot less than C&R firearms.
Under the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, any cartridge firearm made in or before 1898 ("pre-1899") is classified as an "antique", and is generally outside of Federal jurisdiction[3], as administered and enforced by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). The only exceptions to the Federal exemption are antique machineguns (such as the Maxim gun and Colt Model 1895 "Potato Digger") and antique cartridge rifles or shotguns firing shotgun shells that are classified as "short barreled" per the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968, namely cartridge rifles with a barrel less than 16 inches long, or shotguns firing shotgun shells with a barrel less than 18 inches long, or either cartridge rifles or shotgun-shell firing shotguns with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
Not enough info to find out if it's the same gun, but I found this in a search:
Interestingly enough, the Modele d'Ordnance 1892 Lebel revolver, which was the star of this thread, can fall into either category: Antique OR C&R; Dates of manufacture were stamped on the barrels and there were plenty that were made before 1899, making them bona fide antiques under ATF regs. The rest, obviously, are C&R's.
Interestingly the original link no longer includes the quote in the OP. But I found this:
One of the weapons was an antique 8 mm revolver that dates to 1892. Hedley said the weapon was manufactured in France but does not appear to be stolen, based on its serial number. How the suspects came to possess it is under investigation, he said.
Even if the gun has not been "reported stolen" under that serial number, I'll bet it's a stolen gun.
Some gun collector had his house burglarized and this was among the weapons the burglars took.
Ever since, it's been circulating on the black market, in the hands of teenage punks, thugs, and convicted felons who might have wanted a gun just for self-defense but couldn't get one thorugh normal channels.
It might not have ever been stolen. Someone could have purchased it legally for cheap years ago and then sold it privately to someone else that did the same a few times until someone finally sold it to someone that either was not legal to purchase a weapon or was legal until they decided to knock over a Wendys.
The whole antique firearm thing has always amazed me.

You have three guns, exact same model, same functionality, shoot the same cartridge. One made in 1898, one made in the same factory in 1899, and a reproduction made last year. All three are subject to totally different regulation.

Yeah, I'm curious as to whether this guy actually had any ammo. Or, if he did, what modern round did he manage to get into the cylinder?
dunkel said:
Yeah, I'm curious as to whether this guy actually had any ammo. Or, if he did, what modern round did he manage to get into the cylinder?
Police found in the car two guns, including an antique, French, 8mm 6-shot revolver called a "Mre. D'Armes St. Etienne." Police said it was manufactured in 1892, there were no rounds in the cylinder, and they were not immediately sure if it would even fire. ... y-suspects
Over 350,000 Mle 1892 revolvers were manufactured between 1892 and 1924
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