[Gunstar1]

I don't know if any of you heard about the UN report that said it is a right of the people to be free from gun violence (and state/government mandated strict gun control is how people enjoy that right), but now David Kopel and friends have a released a rebuttal to that report.

It is not a quick read at 119 pages.

http://davekopel.com/2A/LawRev/The-Huma ... efense.pdf

 

[slabertooch]

Got these snippets from the article

from the Christian Bible

A man is justified in taking the life of a burglar, of a footpad, of a violator of women or
youth; and he may take the life of another with impunity in defence of father, mother,
brother, wife, or other relations.

Athenian Law

Athenian law presumed that the citizen militia would possess their own arms which they would
use when called to military service.

Self explanatory

While there are several distinct schools of Islamic law, all Islamic law agrees that
self-defense, including defense of property, is lawful. According to a modern scholar’s
summary of Islamic criminal law:
There is a natural right to self-defense. One may defend oneself from a
criminal act that poses an imminent threat to person or property, but only
necessary force may be used. An intruder who might be repelled with a stick may
not be shot and killed; neither may one pursue an intruder who has retreated and
is no longer a threat. Violation of the limits of self-defense is aggression and
renders one criminally liable

European Convention for Human Rights

Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law. No one shall be deprived of his
life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a court following his
conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law.
2. Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this
article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely
necessary:
(a) in defence of any person from unlawful violence;
(b) in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent escape of a person lawfully
detained;
(c) in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or
insurrection

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

I don't know if any of you heard about the UN report that said it is a right of the people to be free from gun violence (and state/government mandated strict gun control is how people enjoy that right), but now David Kopel and friends have a released a rebuttal to that report.

It is not a quick read at 119 pages.

http://davekopel.com/2A/LawRev/The-Huma ... efense.pdf

How on earth can the UN produce a report on guns, which is no doubt flawed, when the UN itself is flawed. :roll:

 

[ptsmith24]

UN is international...why should they have any business in the internal U.S.? If it weren't for the U.S. being a member, I highly doubt the U.N. would exist...

 

[Rammstein]

That even deserved a response?


Where is the target of the UN helmet? I need something to shoot at this weekend.

 

[Rammstein]

Found it!

 

[lsu_nonleg]

UN is international...why should they have any business in the internal U.S.? If it weren't for the U.S. being a member, I highly doubt the U.N. would exist...

Because according to at least three members of the US Supreme Court, and a majority of those from blue districts in Congress believe that the UN is there to set standards for the world. By which we will, through judicial rule and legislative creation, interpret into law and regulation in our own country.

Those members of the USSC routinely quote and use "international opinion," international "standards" (written or otherwise) in cases that bring up capital punishment and other subjects. Been doing it for as long as they've been on the bench, IIRC.

We have to be a member to some extent, but it's a "chew the crap or bathe in it" choice. If we're not a member, the UN turns even farther against traditional US allies (although how much worse they can get I don't know.) I would hate paying union dues, for instance, but I'd have to pay in order to show up and piss and moan about them.

 

[pro2am]

We have to be a member to some extent, but it's a "chew the crap or bathe in it" choice. If we're not a member, the UN turns even farther against traditional US allies (although how much worse they can get I don't know.) I would hate paying union dues, for instance, but I'd have to pay in order to show up and piss and moan about them.

One of my favorite quotes:

"Keep your friends close...and your enemies closer"

 

[ptsmith24]

Found it!

do eeeet! :evil:

 

[GAGunOwner]

The US uses the UN to further its goals at times. We like being a permanant member of the Security Council with veto power. We like it when the UN passes a resoulution against something we don't like (like the Iraqi ones), etc. We can block stuff we don't like and we can also push things through at times that we do like.

 

[Taurus]

<------------ Look at my Avatar...That's how I feel... :roll: The UN sux skunk-nutz! They have caused more deaths in the world than they have saved with their idiotic gun-control rhetoric...

 

[GAGunOwner]

I hate the UN too but the US does get some use out of it, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Taurus]

I hate the UN too but the US does get some use out of it, that's all I'm saying.

Ohh heck yeah they do...I think they use the UN to throw around some extra weight when we don't have enough of our own weight...I completely agree...

I have a little more hope for the UN now that Kofi Annan is out of their...

 

[GAGunOwner]

I have a little more hope for the UN now that Kofi Annan is out of their...

You are more optimistic than I am.