Another School Shooting

Discussion in 'In the News' started by pro2am, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. pro2am

    pro2am New Member


  2. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    That's odd. Ohio is red on the map, which means it is illegal to have a gun in school.

  3. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

    another school shooting.........I think it has all been said in previous posts about this kind of thing.

    Bad people dont care about laws....
  4. triggerman357

    triggerman357 Active Member

    I heard the 14 yr old shooter was killed.
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    That is what the news story says, but it does not say how. Suicide?
  6. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

    Supposedly in another media arena, they are saying the two kids had a beef with each other. The other came back with a gun today and opened fire! :shock:
  7. Wiley

    Wiley Guest

    Does it matter? One less trial to pay for.

    (Gee, ain't I a nasty, unfeeling SOB.)
  8. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

    According to recent reports...the kid killed himself. I guess it could have been worse.

    on similar news...

    Fox was kind enough to add this to a "facts" section. Apparently by "schools", they only mean grades K-12.

    Wednesday, October 10, 2007

    The following are major school shooting incidents in the United States over the past 10 years:

    — Huntersville, NC, April 18, 2007: A teenager shot and killed himself shortly after pointing a handgun at two other students in a high school parking lot.

    — Greenville, TX. March 7, 2007. A 16-year-old male high school student fatally shot himself while in the band hallway area of the school. No other students were injured.

    — Tacoma, WA. January 3, 2007. An 18-year-old male high school student was arrested for shooting and killing a 17-year-old male student at their school. The suspect allegedly shot the victim in the face and then stood over him, firing twice more.

    — Springfield Township, PA. December 12, 2006. A 16-year-old male high school shot and killed himself with an AK-47 in the hallway of his high school. The student, reportedly despondent over his grades, had the gun concealed in a camouflage duffle bag and fired one round in the ceiling to warn other students to get out of the way before committing suicide.

    — Katy, TX. October 17, 2006. A 16-year-old male high school sophomore committed suicide by shooting himself with a handgun in the school's cafeteria courtyard.

    — Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania. October 2, 2006. A truck driver walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse with two rifles, a semi-automatic handgun, and 600 rounds of ammunition, selected all the female students, and shot them execution-style, killing five and seriously wounding six. The man then shot himself, apparently having left suicide notes beforehand.

    — Cazenovia, Wisconsin. September 29, 2006. A student walked into a rural school with a pistol and a rifle and shot the principal several times, critically injuring him.

    — Bailey, Colorado. September 27, 2006. A lone gunman enters a high school and holds six female students hostage, sexually assaults them, kills one of them, and then himself after a four-hour standoff.

    — Hillsborough, North Carolina. August 30, 2006. After shooting his father to death, a student open fires at his high school, injuring two students. Deputies found guns, ammunition, and homemade pipe bombs in the student's car. The student had emailed Columbine High's Principal, telling him that it was "time the world remembered" the shootings at Columbine.

    — Essex, Vermont. August 24, 2006. A gunman shoots five people, killing two of them, in a rampage through two houses and an elementary school, before wounding himself.

    — Jacksboro, TN. Nov. 8, 2005: a 14 year-old student fatally shot an assistant principal and wounds a principal and an assistant principal, when they questioned him about whether he brought a gun to Campbell County Comprehensive High School.

    — Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minnesota. March 21, 2005. The worst school-related shooting incident since the Columbine shootings in April of 1999. Ten killed (shooter killed nine and then himself) and seven injured in rampage by high school student.

    — Cumberland City, TN. March 2, 2005. School bus driver shot and killed while driving a school bus carrying approximately 20 students by a 14-year-old student who had been reported to administrators by the driver for chewing tobacco on the bus.

    — Nine Mile Falls, Washington. December 10, 2004. A 16-year-old high school junior committed suicide at the high school's entryway. A canister holding fireworks, shotgun shells, and rifle cartridges was found in a backpack belonging to the student.

    — Joyce, Washington. March 17, 2004. A 13-year-old student shot and killed himself in a school classroom where about 20 other students were present. The boy reportedly brought a .22-caliber rifle hidden in a guitar case and pulled it out during the 10 a.m. class.

    — Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. February 11, 2004. A 10-year-old student was shot in the face and died after being shot outside a Philadelphia elementary school. A 56-year-old female school crossing guard was also shot in the foot as she tried to scurry children across the street as bullets were flying and children were on the playground.

    — Washington, D.C. February 2, 2004. A 17-year-old male high school student died after being shot several times and another student was injured after shots were fired near the school's cafeteria.

    — Henderson, Nevada. January 21, 2004. Gunman shoots and kills a hostage in his car on school campus. The gunman was allegedly looking for his ex-girlfriend as he searched the school full of children in an after-school program.

    — Cold Spring, Minnesota. September 24, 2003. Two students shot and killed by a 15-year-old boy at Rocori High School.

    — Red Lion, Pennsylvania. April 24, 2003. Principal of Red Lion Area Junior High is fatally shot in the chest by a 14-year-old student, who then committed suicide, as students gather in the cafeteria for breakfast.

    — New Orleans, Louisiana. April 14, 2003. One 15-year-old killed and three students wounded at John McDonough High School by gunfire from four teenagers in a gang-related shooting.

    — Bowie, Maryland. October 7, 2002. A 13-year-old by was shot and critically wounded by the DC-area sniper outside Benjamin Tasker Middle School.

    — New York, New York. January 15, 2002. Two students at Martin Luther King Junior High School in Manhattan were seriously wounded when an 18-year-old opened fire in the school.

    — Caro, Michigan. November 12, 2001. A 17-year-old student took two hostages and the Caro Learning Center before killing himself.

    — Ennis, Texas. May 15, 2001. A 16-year-old sophomore upset over his relationship with a girl, took 17 hostages in English class, and shot and killed himself and the girl.

    — Gary, Indiana. March 30, 2001. 17-year-old expelled from Lew Wallace High School kills classmate.

    — Granite Hills, California. March 22, 2001. One teacher and three students wounded by a student at Granite Hills school.

    — Willamsport, Pennsylvania. March 7, 2001. Classmate wounded by a 14-year-old girl, in the cafeteria of Bishop Neuman High School.

    — Santee, California. March 5, 2001. A 15-year-old student killed two fellow students and wounded 13 others, while firing from a bathroom at Santana High School in San Diego County.

    — Baltimore, Maryland. January 17, 2001. 17-year-old student shot and killed in front of Lake Clifton-Eastern High School.

    — New Orleans, Louisiana. September 26, 2000. Two students wounded in a gun fight at Woodson Middle School.

    — Lake Worth, Florida. May 26, 2000. A 13-year-old honor student killed his English teacher, Barry Grunow, on the last day of classes after the teacher refused to let him talk to two girls in his classroom.

    — Mount Morris Township, Michigan. February 29, 2000. A 6-year-old boy shot and killed a 6-year-old girl at Buell Elementary School with a .32 caliber handgun.

    — Fort Gibson, Oklahoma. December 6, 2000. A 13-year-old boy, armed with a handgun, opened fire outside Fort Gibson Middle school, wounding four classmates.

    — Deming, New Mexico. November 19, 1999. 12-year-old boy came to school dressed in camouflage and shoots 13-year-old girl with a .22 caliber as students were returning from lunch.

    — Conyers, Georgia. May 20, 1999. 15-year-old sophomore opens fire with a rifle and a handgun on Heritage High School students arriving for classes, injuring six.

    — Littleton, Colorado. April 20, 1999. Students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 before killing themselves at Columbine High School.

    — Springfield, Oregon. May 21, 1998: Two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people hurt when a teenage boy opened fire at a high school after killing his parents. Kip Kinkel, 17, was sentenced to nearly 112 years in prison.

    — Fayetteville, Tenn. May 19, 1998: Three days before his graduation, an honor student opened fire at a high school, killing a classmate who was dating his ex-girlfriend.

    — Jonesboro, Arkansas. March 24, 1998: Two boys, ages 11 and 13, fired on their middle school from nearby woods, killing four girls and a teacher and wounding 10 others. Both boys were later convicted of murder and can be held until age 21.

    — West Paducah; Kentucky. Dec. 1, 1997: Three students were killed and five wounded at a high school. Michael Carneal, then 14, later pleaded guilty but mentally ill to murder and is serving life in prison.

    — Pearl, Miss. Oct. 1, 1997: Sixteen-year-old Luke Woodham fatally shot two students and wounded seven others after stabbing his mother to death.
  9. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member


    The threats were last week, so this was not an "all of a sudden" event.

    Also, the injured list is now 5, but one was a twisted ankle, and they are not disclosing details on the others. Two are middle aged men.
  10. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Were the two middle-aged men teachers?
  11. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

  12. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah. Text messages and email would have worked much better, especially since the gunman would've gotten them, too.
  13. blind_shake

    blind_shake Well-Known Member

    I think with the teacher in oregon fighting to have guns in schoolsand the recent shooting I think people are going to start coming around to gun just might be the only thing that can combat a crazed gunman. How long do you think it will be before teachers will be packing?
  14. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    I think some are already. If you mean legally, it might become somewhat common in some cities in some states in a couple of years, hopefully in time to prevent as many shootings as possible.
  15. wsweeks2

    wsweeks2 New Member

    First report is that they were teachers, but upon further investigation, it was discovered that they are :sheep: !!!

  16. mswicord

    mswicord New Member

    I want to confirm a bit of history that Fox reported today that would have an impact on this whole teacher caring issue.

    "Is it true the Texas Tech shooter in the 1960's was held down by suppressive fire from a teach that got his deer rife out of his office...."

    If this is true we have documented proof armed teachers have saved lives.

  17. mswicord

    mswicord New Member

    Looks like Fox was reporting the throught once again..... ... uck_Wroten

    University of Texas Tower Shooting, 1966, Buck Wroten
    From MemoryArchive
    Who: Buck Wroten
    What: University of Texas Tower Shooting
    When: Summer of 1966
    Where: Austin, Texas

    It can be hot in Austin in the summertime and the summer of 1966 was no different. I was attending the summer sessions and the University of Texas to get some core courses out of the way to be able to take more interesting classes in the fall. Austin is a wonderful place in the summer with all the attractive recreational features in and around the city. There are three nearby lakes and many parks with swimming holes perfect for a couple of months of studying and sunning.

    My 10-11:30am speech class had just let out. A friend, Steve, and I were walking across the south mall below the tower building with a couple of classmates that were engaged to be married in the fall. It was a beautiful morning and all the flowers were blooming around the large campus. We were walking rather slowly because our next classes did not begin until noon. The sound we heard next is a sound I will never forget. The thud of a high-powered bullet crashing into flesh and bone. Then the report of the rifle. Again the thump a bullet into a human body. Again the sound of the rifle. Steve and I glanced at the couple on the ground and then sprinted into the hedges and flowers to our right. We could hear the rounds hitting the pavement where we had been walking but had no idea where they were coming from. Then it was quiet. I looked back at the two bodies on the mall. There was no movement. Steve was a few yards in front of me trying to be as small as he could in the flowerbed. We hid there for what seemed hours. Actually, it was only a few minutes. The sporadic gunfire seemed to be somewhere else on campus and we could not see anyone but the bodies on the south mall. Without a word, we jumped up and ran like the wind across the rest of the east and south mall. As we rounded the south mall, we could see more bodies strewn on the flagstone. Steve ran into the Hogg building and I slipped into the English building.
    University of Texas 1964The mind does strange things under stress. Mine strives for normalcy. Therefore, I went into my noon English class. There were about thirty students already there looking out of the windows onto the south mall when the professor entered the room. He actually began class but could not seem to get the attention of the students. He followed the class’s attention out on the mall just in time to see an Austin policeman gunned down trying to move students to a safer area next to the mall. A security officer came into the room saying someone was shooting from the top of the tower. We evacuated the classroom rather quickly. The hallway and basement were the safest places to be but I decided to go up to the top floor offices to get a better idea of what was happening.

    None of the professor’s offices were occupied except for one whose door was open. As I walked down the hall toward that office the sound of a large caliber rifle thundered from that open doorway followed by two men talking. After all the bizarre events of the last few minutes it didn’t seem strange to me when I peeked around the office doorway to see one professor shooting a deer rifle at the top of tower while the other fed him ammunition. It never entered my mind to question why an English professor would have his deer rifle in his office complete with boxes of ammunition. This was Texas after all. Guns were commonplace. From the office windows, we could see the top of the tower clearly. Small puffs of smoke were coming from the rifle of the sniper on the observation deck. The large glass faced clock above the observation deck was shattered from others shooting back at him. The professor ran through several boxes of shells before running out of rounds. My ears were ringing.

    A while later there was no more gunfire from the tower and word was spread that the sniper had been killed. Students and EMT’s recovered the wounded and dead around campus. People who had been on the observation deck when the shooting rampage began, were the first ones killed when the sniper started. They were brought down the elevator on gurneys covered in blood soaked sheets.

    Charles Whitman, an ex-marine engineering student, was finally killed by Officer McCoy. Whitman had killed his own wife, mother before going to the tower. He had a brain tumor. It was the first time in America that a shooting spree had been televised live. I believe I came closer to death that morning than I ever did in Vietnam.


    External Links:

    Official Website of the University of Texas

    The Crime Library's coverage of the UT Shooting
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Nope... Just makes you anti-liberal which means you're welcome to a beer in my place anytime ;-)
  19. GAGunOwner

    GAGunOwner Active Member

    Yeah, I thought the law(s) banning guns in schools were meant to prevent this sort of thing. :roll:
  20. GAGunOwner

    GAGunOwner Active Member

    Another "poor child" that was "killed by a gun" for the Brady stats.