Ann on Huckabee and Thompson

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by Malum Prohibitum, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    FRED SAWYER AND HUCKABEE FINN
    October 10, 2007


    Conservatives unhappy with our Republican presidential candidates seem to be drifting aimlessly toward Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee in the misguided belief that these candidates are more conservative than Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney. This is like breaking up with Bobby Brown so you can date Phil Spector.

    On illegal immigration, Huckabee makes George Bush sound like Tom Tancredo. He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, "I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before."

    Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up "those who are racist and bigots."

    He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn't allow non-citizens to vote because it would "send the message that, essentially, 'If you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don't want you.'"

    Like all the (other) Democratic candidates for president, he supports a federal law to ban smoking -- unless you're an illegal alien smoking at a Toyota plant. (I just realized why Mike Huckabee can't run for president as a Democrat -- they've already got Mike Gravel.)

    Huckabee also joined with impeached president Bill Clinton in a campaign against childhood obesity. What, O.J. wasn't available?

    Bill and Mike's excellent adventure lasted about one week in May 2005 -- or just long enough to burnish the image of the president who committed perjury and obstruction of justice in a civil rights suit against him, molested the help and was credibly accused of rape by Juanita Broaddrick.

    Huckabee teamed up with that guy to talk to children about healthy eating habits. Ironically, the obesity campaign kicked off almost exactly nine years from the very Palm Sunday on which President Clinton used a cigar as a sexual aid on Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office.

    What is with Republicans? Clinton isn't your average ex-president, like Jerry Ford. This isn't even Jimmy Carter or Walter Mondale.

    Decent people shun Clinton, but elected Republicans keep trying to rehabilitate him. President Bush sends his own father on a feel-good "tsunami-relief campaign" with this guy, and Huckabee visits schoolchildren with him.

    In 1999, Sen. Fred Thompson joined legal giants like Sens. Jim Jeffords, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins to vote against removing Bill Clinton from office for perjury.

    Thompson, whom President Nixon once called "dumb as idiotidiotidiotidiot," claimed to have carefully studied the Constitution and determined that perjury by the president of the United States did not constitute "high crimes and misdemeanors." He must have been looking at one of those living, breathing Constitutions we've heard so much about.

    When the framers chose the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" for the Constitution, they were using a term taken from British parliamentary impeachments. There's a 600-year history of what this phrase means -- and Clinton met it about a dozen times before he gave a single statement under oath or suborned a single witness's testimony.

    It has been used in this country and in Britain to remove one government official for making "uncivil addresses to a women," another for "notorious excesses and debaucheries" and another for "frequenting bawdy houses and consorting with harlots." Or, as Bill Clinton used to call it, "a three-day weekend."

    The House didn't even impeach Clinton for his legion of "notorious excesses and debaucheries." He was impeached for excesses that also happen to be felonies. For a nation of laws, there are no more serious offenses than perjury and obstruction of justice.

    The entire Supreme Court -- including the justices Clinton appointed -- boycotted Clinton's State of the Union address after his impeachment trial. That's what they thought of crimes that attack the legal system.

    Rep. James Rogan lost his congressional seat because he stuck by his principles as a manager of Clinton's impeachment. Lifelong Democrat David Schippers abandoned his party's lockstep defense of Clinton to pursue Clinton's impeachment as the House Judiciary Committee's chief counsel. Rep. Henry Hyde saw an affair he had in 1965 become front-page news because he wouldn't waver from doing his job under the Constitution.

    But, as The New York Times recently said, Thompson "agonized over what he saw as two 'bad choices.'"

    What bad choices? Punishing a multiple felon or not punishing him? This wasn't exactly a job for King Solomon, pal.

    The Times reported that calls from Thompson's Tennessee constituents showed that they "overwhelmingly favored removing President Bill Clinton from office." So Thompson could either: (1) Follow the Constitution and make his constituents happy or, (2) disregard the Constitution and make his Hollywood friends happy.

    Only a handful of Republicans voted against all law and reason to keep Clinton in office, and only one of them was from Tennessee.

    This isn't the time to be toying with any Republican who had a Clinton in his sights and ended up shooting himself in the foot. If you're bored with our top candidates, go see a slasher movie. Don't take it out on a presidential election.

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  2. kkennett

    kkennett New Member

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    Whatever you think of her, the lady writes a fun read. "three day weekend," now that's funny.
     

  3. Thorsen

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    Ann Coulter is a harpy. One of her latest statements she made is right in line with those Europeans who committed pograms against the Jews. While I admit I have purchased one of her books in the past, once I began researching her citations I found her to be as untrustworthy and blatant a liar as any socialist disguised as a liberal.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    So the Rosenburgs were innocent? :shock:
     
  5. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

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    I was referencing her recent statement that jews need to "be perfected" and that we would all be better off if everyone, including jews, were converted to christianity.
     
  6. Thorsen

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    As to Ann Coulter being a liar, google "Ann Coulter Lies" and begin checking out the websites. Some or worthless, but many will point you at complete factual errors or distortions of so-called verified facts that she cited in her books.

    Since I don't think Ann Coulter is a stupid woman, and since I believe that anyone who ever clerked at the Supreme Court has to be well grounded in how to verify facts, I have to conclude that she is a partisan hack who will gladly point out the errors of the other side, but isn't above twisting the facts, or blatantly lying if necessary, to score a point.

    Ergo, Ann Coulter is a harpy and that is why I change the channel every time someone has her on as a guest. I can not stomach a liar.
     
  7. luke0927

    luke0927 New Member

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    I'm currently reading her newest book....
     
  8. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

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    I used to be a huge fan of hers too...but she's said some things recently that are a little too extreme for me.

    But I'll defend her right to say those things...just like my right to not listen anymore.
     
  9. Vir Quisque Vir

    Vir Quisque Vir New Member

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    Ann Coulter

    Her conservatism is offensive to many. She has a very sharp mind, but when she shifts back and forth from logic and great arguments to convoluted opinions off the wall, she loses a lot of her credibility. Sometimes she is on the mark, but many conservatives wish she would just fade away. Good thing about America is we can turn the set or radio OFF. We still have that choice. It is true that in most media, the conservative philosophy is generally not embraced, or even tolerated. If you just look at the amount of TV news time in which Bill or Hillary Clinton are shown, and compare it to Fred Thompson or McCain, it is like night and day. The TV broadcast news not only dictates what you see, but what you DON'T see on television. Therefore, you are SELDOM going to see conservative Republican views presented, you will seldom see pro-gun positions presented, but you will always hear about the rogue NRA and other pro-gun groups. You will see reports of socialized, government controlled and regulated health care, but you will seldom see the fair tax supported or real tax reform, or alternative forms for health care to assume. In the interim, Ann Coulter is sure to stir up the ocean bottom and hence many of the bottom feeders, and sell a lot of books. The internet, cable and radio do offer alternatives to the liberal party line. I like to get news from various sources to better be able to separate the wheat from the chaff as it were. LOTS of chaff on the broadcast TV media. I guess that is why men and women got 3 pounds of brain, more or less.
     
  10. boom boom

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    Vir-nice post

    Vir Quisque Vir,
    You hit the nail on the head.