Amazon alexa, ask it who the Lord Jesus Christ is....

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by johnski, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. johnski

    johnski Well-Known Member

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    though Mohammed is a "wise prophet"

     
  2. psrumors

    psrumors Well-Known Member

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    I asked, it stated "The Lord Jesus Christ is Jesus of Nazareth, a Jewish Preacher and religious leader who is the center figure of Christianity"
     

  3. NTA

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    There's better sources for answers to these sort of questions
     
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  4. JiG

    JiG Awaiting censure

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    Crowder is manufactured propaganda. He is "The Daily Show" for the right.

    The right thinks they are smarter than the left, however; they are led just like sheep all the same. If it backs your beliefs, it must be true. If it challenges your beliefs, it must be wrong. Neither are states of open minds that are willing to learn and grow. They are states of degradation of mind. Tuning in to be told how to think or feel is to an individual's own detriment. Both sides do it. Crowder serves those that want to be told how to feel and think on the right. Facts do not matter.
     
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  5. johnski

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    I disagree. Crowder does not manufacture anything because that would ruin his whole business. If you bothered to read the comments, different people got different responses, depending on how your question was worded. When Alexis gives the answer in question, how is that right wing propaganda, especially since Bezos and Amazon are understood to be fairly leftist-progressive.
    As far as tuning in to be told how to think, how stupid and weak-minded is that. People can watch it for whatever value they get from it, whether it is just entertainment or whatever. They certainly do not need anyone to interpret it for them nor tell them "it's fake news!".
    If his Alexis gave the particular answer in this video, how is that not a fact. Various Alexis owners who have tried this have got the "Jesus is a fictional character" AND the "proper" wiki entry.

    Where do you get this from? If you listen to any political propaganda, it is typically the Left who espouse the view that they are smarter than everyone else, esp the dumb hicks and knuckle-draggers. Especially in regards to firearms ownership and rights. The other political types just shrug their shoulders and laugh at the Left for thinking this. I have yet to see ANY right-wing propaganda where they espouse that they are smarter than the Left. They do make fun of the Left for their supposed "intellectual superiority". This is not the same as claiming you are smarter than they are.
     
  6. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    Alexa needs to start each of those with "Believed to Be" or "Claimed to be by Bibilical or Islamic believers" or even "Reported to be by Christians or Islamic believers" as appropriate.

    Then it should refer questioners to the Bible or Qur'an for further information. Anything other than that is just conjecture in the mind of whoever believes it.

    Nemo
     
  7. psrumors

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    The video above is a total hack. I have asked the same questions, worded the exact same way and get none of the conjecture. The response is much more like looking words up in a dictionary.

    We have two of these units and never have had anything added to any shopping list, nothing / no one has showed up at the door etc.
     
  8. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand why any sane person would allow Alexa, Google Home or any other "smart" device into their home. :popcorn:
     
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  9. psrumors

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    I guess you don't keep a cell phone with you either?

    How about the PC/MAC you are using to post this?
     
  10. Taurus92

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    While those are subject to hacking, their main purpose isn't to listen to everything and report it back to be recorded.
     
  11. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Damn right Skippy. I don't even own one.

    How about it? My home location isn't a state secret.
     
  12. psrumors

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    Uhhh...."ok google"....if there is a mic, it is listening...hacked or not
     
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  13. Taurus92

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    Maybe on Android/Google phones it's always listening, but on iPhones you can turn that off for the specific purpose of privacy. Now, you can argue they listen anyway, but that's going to fall under "hacked".
     
  14. psrumors

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    It isn't hacked if it is working as designed....call me paranoid but I do not believe a little box being on or off is the end all be all.

    We had a group of adults in our van and were discussing android pay and apple pay. By the end of the day all of those that did not use the pay apps received an advertisement through their e-mail. This was across the board apple and android.

    They are listening....
     
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  15. TITAN308

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    All else aside, I learned this lesson a few years ago.

    Being a "gun owner" or "right wing" doesn't make someone any less of an idiot than their left anti-gun left wing counterparts. I mean I'll outright say it, there are a lot of people who are probably to stupid to carry a gun (or drive a car for that matter).

    This is what he is talking about.

    Right Wing: "You guys are just smug elitist pricks thinking you are smarter than everyone"

    Left Wing: "You guys are just dumb religious rednecks thinking you are smarter than everyone"

    Take a nice honest look at both sides. Both are equally retarded.
     
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  16. Taurus92

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    Yes, you're paranoid. I am too, but not quite that much. I've never had an advertisement based on conversation around my phone, but I have Siri configured to only listen when I press and hold the button. I've heard others claim what you're saying and the reasoning* went something like this: One of the idiots in the group had everything turned on, meaning open access to conversations and gave pretty much open access to contacts, email, pics, etc. Via the conversation, whoever was listening was able to harvest who was in the conversation and their emails from the one idiot. So, you're mostly right, they are listening, but it may have taken only one idiot in the group for everyone to get emails.

    I have a couple "friends" that I've forwarded emails to and have received emails forwarded from them. The incoming forwarded emails have the complete history of everybody that has forwarded the email. Guess where my spam comes from? Yep, he forwards everything I've sent him WITHOUT deleting the history. So, he only gets very select stuff from me now. I always delete email addresses when I forward anything.
     
  17. AtlPhilip

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    LOL! I didn't even ask. It started replying to the video asking.

    Alexa maintains a 30 second rolling buffer. When you say the keyword it xmits the buffer from last silence point, plus audio following to the next silence point. That is easily verified with a packet sniffer or basic network monitoring tool.

    Nor have I. But I have gotten side-bar advertisements for very specific products discussed only on non-public forum connected via HTTPS. IMHO, Chrome is absolutely farming your browsing data.
     
  18. Taurus92

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    Yes, that's Alexa's purpose, design and complete existance. I was talking about pc's and cell phones. You can turn that on for a phone, but that's not its only purpose.
     
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  19. Taurus92

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    From the above reply.
    Think about the implications of this. You may have a conversation in a cone-of-silence, but if any of it gets repeated around one of the devices listening with access to contacts, you might as well post a youtube. You may no longer be in control. It's a problem.
     
  20. EJR914

    EJR914 Cheezburger Operator

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    Hi, NSA wiretap, please pull up a recipe for homemade tomatillo salsa.