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Active shooter investigation; police going door-to-door in my neighborhood

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Active shooting investigation with a lot of police presence in my neighborhood:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/nor...-barricaded-inside-johns-creek-home/501124248
http://www.cbs46.com/story/34708026/police-on-scene-of-swat-situation-in-johns-creek

SWAT team seems to be going door to door in my neighboorhood.

I've decided to lock all the doors and to be armed. If the police show up here, should I or do I have to let them search my house?
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"2nd suspect now in custody. No other situations"- ADPS PIO (@ADPSPIO)
If they show up at your door you should start screaming "PIGS IN A BLANKET FRY EM LIKE BACON!!" over and over while firing random shots through doors and windows....:twisted:
"According to police, Jones fired a shot into the side of a home on Old Woodland Entry and fled the scene. Police said the shooting was over a debt he claimed was owed to him. Police said a woman was injured by flying glass after the bullet fired by the suspect struck a window at the home.

Jones was arrested and police said he faced aggravated assault charges. A second suspect, who police did not immediately identify could also face charges.

After fleeing the shooting scene, Jones barricaded inside a home just a short distance away from that shooting scene, on Long Indian Court in Alpharetta." (http://www.cbs46.com/story/34708026/police-on-scene-of-swat-situation-in-johns-creek)

I believe I witnessed the SWAT team go in for the arrest from my back deck. The house is two houses away as the crow flies. Crazy.
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who were you more scared of...the cops, or the supposed active shooter? be honest.
From the Johns Creek Police Department Facebook Page:

At around 1030 a.m., Johns Creek Police received a call of shots fired in the area of 10065 Old Woodland Entry. Upon arrival, it was discovered that a gun shot was fired into the residence at that location. The suspect then fled the scene with another individual.
Units quickly determined who the suspect was due to earlier run-ins with the suspect and the victims over a debt the suspect claimed was owed to him. A few moments later, responding officers located the suspect, Brandon Jones at a house on Long Indian Creek Court in Alpharetta. Officers identified Brandon Jones inside the residence and tried to get him to surrender. Alpharetta Police responded and began working with Johns Creek units to take Brandon Jones into custody.
He faces aggravated assault charges. Charges are possible for the second subject.
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I've decided to lock all the doors and to be armed. If the police show up here, should I or do I have to let them search my house?
With an unknown active shooter or bad guy in the area, you chose a good course of action. I would have done the same.

As to what to do if the police knock on the door, you can choose to allow a consensual search. A lot of folks would do that, without thinking. Consider the Boston Marathon dragnet of a couple years ago. I personally would not. If police knocked, I would calmly go onto my front porch, armed as is my habit, lock the door behind me, and simply talk to the police to find out what was going on. If asked, I would respectfully decline a search by the police, and assure them that no criminals were hiding there.
According to a TV interview with the victim, this was over a matter of $30!? Insane.
If I know that the bad guys are not in my house, I'm not letting the police in. Why should I waste their time looking where the bad guys aren't?
Hey Frank! For everyone else on the board, the original shooting happened right behind my house, after hearing the shots I went outside along with a couple of my neighbors in time to see Johns Creek and Alpharetta PD cordon off the road, crime scene tape off the neighborhood entrance, and then let through fire and EMS vehicles after a few minutes. From our perspective, all we could see was that there had been some sort of shooting, but after the other emergency vehicles were allowed through and private vehicles started to be allowed through in one lane, we assumed everything was over and went back inside. It wasn't until 30 minutes later or so that Alpharetta tweeted that there was still a suspect (and apparently two, now) hiding out in a house in a different neighborhood off the same road. So in theory there was an active shooter while I was outside standing around oblivious, and I certainly have to think about how I'd approach a similar situation again instead of making assumptions that the threat was over. I certainly had no concerns about interaction with the police, although they didn't come down my street checking houses. I would not have allowed officers in if they had. The only thing I did do was I didn't let my dog out off leash in my fenced in back yard today, just in case somebody jumped the fence in the course of a pursuit and decided a 75 pound lap dog was a threat. Also, protip, apparently APD, JCPD or both have a buttload of unmarked Ford Explorers, because they all showed up at once after the initial excitement. So maybe don't blow past one at speed in north Fulton.
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If I know that the bad guys are not in my house, I'm not letting the police in. Why should I waste their time looking where the bad guys aren't?
I cannot agree more. They force their way in to my house if they decide to enter unless I contact them and request their presence. Then most likely we discuss things on my porch or driveway.

Nemo
For those of you who think you have any decision whether or not to allow cops into your house to search for a suspect, think again. When the Boston area cops were searching for Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev, the 4th Amendment went right out the window. House searches were anything but voluntary and you were treated like a suspect. Granted this was a very high profile and emotional event but good luck with that nice chat on your front porch. Watch the video in the link.

http://www.storyleak.com/video-shows-home-searches-by-boston-police-were-not-voluntary/
Of course, it all depends what the police want to do anyway, I get that. I'll still be on the record refusing a search. And I'll let them in, if it means sparing my door from being smashed in.

Scary and sad stuff on that video.
Hey Frank! For everyone else on the board, the original shooting happened right behind my house, after hearing the shots I went outside along with a couple of my neighbors in time to see Johns Creek and Alpharetta PD cordon off the road, crime scene tape off the neighborhood entrance, and then let through fire and EMS vehicles after a few minutes. From our perspective, all we could see was that there had been some sort of shooting, but after the other emergency vehicles were allowed through and private vehicles started to be allowed through in one lane, we assumed everything was over and went back inside. It wasn't until 30 minutes later or so that Alpharetta tweeted that there was still a suspect (and apparently two, now) hiding out in a house in a different neighborhood off the same road. So in theory there was an active shooter while I was outside standing around oblivious, and I certainly have to think about how I'd approach a similar situation again instead of making assumptions that the threat was over. I certainly had no concerns about interaction with the police, although they didn't come down my street checking houses. I would not have allowed officers in if they had. The only thing I did do was I didn't let my dog out off leash in my fenced in back yard today, just in case somebody jumped the fence in the course of a pursuit and decided a 75 pound lap dog was a threat. Also, protip, apparently APD, JCPD or both have a buttload of unmarked Ford Explorers, because they all showed up at once after the initial excitement. So maybe don't blow past one at speed in north Fulton.
The last I looked, speed-enforcement vehicles in Georgia had to be marked. Can anyone speak to that?
The last I looked, speed-enforcement vehicles in Georgia had to be marked. Can anyone speak to that?
That is for planned traffic enforcement. Speed traps to you and me. If they see you driving recklessly, they can light you up and pull you over regardless of what vehicle they are in.
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