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i know that we typically discuss handguns and tactical rifles here, but i have a questions about a .22 survival rifle.

a few years back springfield was making a .22/.410 survival rifle (the M6) that looks to be close to something i am looking for...however...since they stopped making it the prices have gone up and they are very hard to find.

i was wondering if any of you have an idea where i could get one for cheap OR if there is another gun like this by another maker...

thanks for your help!

here is a link to a few reviews on the rifle:

http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/v-shrake/m6.html

http://thepackingrat.net/2008/04/17/spr ... -overview/
 

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thanks for that...i like that option...but i also like the versatility of being able to shoot both .22's and .410's.

does anyone know of anything else?
 

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If the main purpose of a "survival rifle" is to kill small game that you can eat to survive, I'd want it to be pretty accurate and have a repeating capability. I'd like to be able to shoot a few times quickly to bag the game.

And for self-defense considerations, I'd like it have at least a few rounds of rapid -fire available.

And for both self-defense and hunting applications, I'd prefer it to be chambered in .22 magnum instead of .22LR. If I had to go up against a wolf, rabid feral dog, or human, the magnum will be better.

I'm thinking a Rossi pump-action .22 magnum, in stainless steel, would be my choice for a survival rifle. It would hold about 10 rounds of .22 WMR in the tubular magazine and it could be shot very quickly with some practice.

If signaling for help, the extra loud "BANG" of the magnum would be welcome.

P.S. And if snakes are an issue, the first round could be a shotshell. It should tear up a snake good at a couple yards' distance.
 

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If the main purpose of a "survival rifle" is to kill small game that you can eat to survive, I'd want it to be pretty accurate and have a repeating capability. I'd like to be able to shoot a few times quickly to bag the game.

And for self-defense considerations, I'd like it have at least a few rounds of rapid -fire available.

And for both self-defense and hunting applications, I'd prefer it to be chambered in .22 magnum instead of .22LR. If I had to go up against a wolf, rabid feral dog, or human, the magnum will be better.

I'm thinking a Rossi pump-action .22 magnum, in stainless steel, would be my choice for a survival rifle. It would hold about 10 rounds of .22 WMR in the tubular magazine and it could be shot very quickly with some practice.

If signaling for help, the extra loud "BANG" of the magnum would be welcome.

P.S. And if snakes are an issue, the first round could be a shotshell. It should tear up a snake good at a couple yards' distance.
Both in the links I posted are simi auto. The idea behind the survival rifle isn't so much as a self defense or battle rifle. The idea is compact, lightweight and easy to carry. If you are going to carry a full size rifle then almost any will do. The problem is everything else you would have to carry as well. Check out a movie called the Road.
 

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I just think it's silly to assume that in a "survival" scenario out in the woods that you'll only be hunting small game and birds, and nothing bigger is on the menu, and nothing bigger or badder will want to add you to its menu.

But centerfire ammo is big and bulky and heavy. That's why .22 magnum is a good compromise between a squirrel gun and a real round you can count on for anything.

P.S. The Taurus pump-action .22s break down into two sections, the longest one with the barrel will be about 20" long. The gun is really slim and easy to carry, and weighs only 6 lbs.
 

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I just think it's silly to assume that in a "survival" scenario out in the woods that you'll only be hunting small game and birds, and nothing bigger is on the menu, and nothing bigger or badder will want to add you to its menu.

But centerfire ammo is big and bulky and heavy. That's why .22 magnum is a good compromise between a squirrel gun and a real round you can count on for anything.

P.S. The Taurus pump-action .22s break down into two sections, the longest one with the barrel will be about 20" long. The gun is really slim and easy to carry, and weighs only 6 lbs.
6lbs + ammo
As opposed to the
3.25lbs of the 70PSS
or
2.25lbs of the AR-7

That's 3 to 4 extra cans of food or a few hunderd more rounds of ammo.

Large game will go first and fast.
 

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I know its not the same thing, but I use my keltec SUB 2000 in 9mm as my survival rifle. It folds down into a 16 x 7 space. I've been meaning to stock up on 9mm shot shell for small game at super close ranges. Its not a true substitute for a 22lr rifle, but I like it.

I've been on the look out for a long flat dry box so that it would be float and keep stuff dry.
 

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The .22 is the most versatile round in existence, and even ranked number one for self defense carry piece (as a magnum) in a recent article posted in this forum. If I had to chose one caliber to carry as a survival rifle, it would be a .22. I can carry thousands of rounds of ammo, and take anything I need to with it. It'll take a deer (albeit not as humanely, but you're eating venison!), and will kill an enemy. As far as snakes go, why mess them up? They're food!

A combination, like an over/under, woefully limits your capacity to one round each, but if that's what you're looking for, have you seen this? I'd bet you could do stock modifications (folding), to make it more of a survival firearm.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... s_id/14172
 
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