2016 Smashed Previous Gun Sales Record

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by tmoore912, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Feds carried out 27.5 million gun-related background checks in 2016, which is about 4.4 million more than 2015

     
  2. DonT

    DonT Deplorable bitter clinger.

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    This is somewhat surprising, but if you think of it, many folks were driven by fear in the last few months of the year to buy a firearm, before what they thought was the inevitable election of Hillary Clinton.
     

  3. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    You can also chalk some up to California in the days just before Christmas. FFL's couldn't keep AR's or AK's in stock because of the 10 day wait and the new law going into effect on 01/01/2017. The one thing the Democrats are very good at is driving firearm sales to the max.
     
  4. phaed

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    i think the mean will continue to increase until the collapse of the US. whatever people's political leanings, i think deep down they know things aren't right, and aren't going to get better without getting much worse first.
     
  5. 45_Fan

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38297345

    It isn't just conservatives. The post-election day black Friday numbers are impressive: 185,713.
     
  6. moe mensale

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  7. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    OK, if I have a state issued carry license in an exempt state, and I buy a firearm, does that show up as an FBI background check?

    NICS was run when I applied for my license. If I never buy a gun or I bought 25 of them in 2016, how can this be "an accurate metric of gun sales?"

    Pretty much everybody on this web site buying guns has a GWCL. Most other states have an exemption. Aren't licensed carriers the ones most likely to be buying?
     
  8. Malum Prohibitum

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    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bcft12st.pdf
     
  9. Rugerer

    Rugerer GeePeeDoHolic

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    Regarding the "accuracy" statement, the same author said this last October.

    By Stephen Gutowski
    Published October 04, 2016
    Washington Free Beacon

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/0...d-background-checks-break-monthly-record.html
    I would think the best metric would be the manufacturers report, but that comes out 2 years after the fact.
     
  10. 45_Fan

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    One can purchase more than a single firearm on a single NICS check too.
     
  11. phaed

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    it's a fair point. having lived in prior, and currently living in constitutional carry states, i know some guys that maintain a carry license just for the NICS exemption.
     
  12. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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  13. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Yes they can. However if you buy more than one handgun at the same time even with an exempt license from an FFL then a special form is filled with the ATF by the FFL.

    In other words if I go into WWT and buy 2 or more handguns and bypass the NICS with my GWCL then the ATF will still be notified that I purchased 2 or more handguns at the same time on the same day. However if I buy 1 from WWT then go down the street to AO and buy another the ATF will more than likely never know about it.
     
  14. 45_Fan

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    Thus furthering the conclusion that the reported numbers are probably a good deal smaller than the actual number of firearms sold.
     
  15. Feral

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    Um, why? Why is the ATF notified? That sounds ridiculous. Why do we even have the ATF again?
     
  16. 45_Fan

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  17. Feral

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    Well that actually makes sense. I still don't like it though.
     
  18. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    I know only a hand full of people that do like it.

    Those I know that like it also voted for Hillary.
     
  19. Malum Prohibitum

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    I am not sure that those notifications are included in these numbers, which are based on the NICS check. Am I wrong?
     
  20. moe mensale

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    It makes perfect sense that the government assumes you're trafficking weapons because you want to buy 2 handguns or 2 evil black rifles at the same time. Yes, perfect sense. :screwy:

    Does the government fill out those ATF multiple sales forms when they sell hundreds of thousands of handguns and/or evil black rifles to their various state clients? I didn't think so.