20-year-old sues Dick’s and Walmart for not selling him a gun

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  1. GlockGary

    GlockGary Glock Block Supporter

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  2. Scout706

    Scout706 Well-Known Member

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    Well, it IS against the law to discriminate based upon age, IANAL.
     

  3. codegeek

    codegeek codegeek reincarnate

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    I was hoping this would happen. Now we'll see if they take age discrimination seriously, or if its just another stunt.
     
  4. Smilodon

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    Young adults aren't a protected class though. I know it varies by state.
     
  5. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    But there is a Federal law that sets the standard and determines what is acceptable and what isn't. Violation of that standard based solely on age is surely discrimination.

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  6. Smilodon

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    I didn't think discrimination was wrong unless you discriminated against a protected class? Varies by state of course.
     
  7. Craftsman

    Craftsman Well-Known Member

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    He is suing under a Oregon state law that specifically outlaws age discrimination in public accommodations such as retail establishments. He is gonna make them bake him a cake.
     
  8. Wheedle

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    No, he is going to make them sell him a pre-made cake.
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Yep - Most of the cake baking cases involve owners who say they are happy to sell a cake already on the shelf to homosexuals. The California case recently decided in favor of the owner (there is a thread on here active yesterday) involved a written opinion by the judge who said the case would have gone against the owner had he refused to sell one already on the shelf, as that would be no different then selling homosexuals a set of tires. The difference is that the action against the cake shop owner is seeking to force him to create one against his will . . .
     
  10. Craftsman

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    I agree completely on the pre-baked vs. custom baked. If you read back in the thread, I referred to the baker's creations as "custom sculptures" that happen to use the medium of baked goods, frosting, and fondant. But "Bake me a damn cake" is so satisfying. Take the new rules the left has imposed and shove them right back down their throats.
     
  11. Malum Prohibitum

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    If 18-21 year olds are denied all rights to self defense, then they are adults, on their own, defenseless.

    This comes from a society that has been over-mothering its kids and not letting them grow up, especially boys.

    Society used to encourage boys to be men, to grow up, to take on responsibility, to create things, to work hard . . . As boys they were allowed to be outside, to exercise, and to take risks, to roam and explore, something boys naturally want to do . . . Now society tells them to shut up and sit still, raise your hand and ask permission to go to the bathroom, do not play outside all day, take drugs to make the teacher's job easier, and do "collaboration" projects working together with other students. Parents keep them close to home, or indoors, and many do not even fire a weapon as a child or spend the night outside or walk into the wilderness out of sight of civilization and other persons.
     
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  13. Malum Prohibitum

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    An 18 year old woman, living on her own, does not deserve the fundamental human right of self defense, is what these persons are saying.
     
  14. Malum Prohibitum

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    For what it's worth, I do not agree with such laws. While I appreciate the ironic humor, I think businesses should be free to set their terms as they wish and deal with whom they wish and sell only what they wish to whom they wish for any reason that strikes their fancy. Liberty means we do not get to control what others do.

    I prefer liberty, even when it means other persons do something that I, if I were given control and authority over that other person, might choose for them to do differently.

    I am not just for liberty for cake bakers.

    The government has no business telling a person what he may or may not sell and to whom.
     
  15. AtlPhilip

    AtlPhilip Proud GCO member.

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    ^^^ This.

    And it is not a far leap from telling Dicks how it must conduct itself on it's private property, and telling you how you must conduct yourself on yours.
     
  16. RedDawnTheMusical

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    Agreed and if it was just the Dick's was refusing to sell certain firearms or firearm accessories (or any firearms/firearm accessories for that matter), I wouldn't have an issue with it. It is when they actively campaign against our rights that I take issue with them. They are moving beyond a simple retailer supplier to a political action committee. That's also technically their right, but it welcomes a whole different level of criticism of their actions.
     
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  17. Malum Prohibitum

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    Oh, but I do have an issue with it, big time. It's just that I do not advocate all my issues with what others do become laws and force others to do what I want them to do.
     
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  18. wee

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    I think the age to Vote, drink alcohol, buy a gun, sign up for the draft or join the Military should all be one in the same.

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  19. TimBob

    TimBob Old, Slow, Boring Dude

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    I agree. And I think that age should be 18.

    However, if a business refuses to sell a gun (or beer, whatever) to an individual, that should be their right. And let the free market take care of those who refuse to do business with 18 year olds.
     
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  20. Phil1979

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    That is precisely what Rep. Jose Oliva said in his closing remarks (in support of the bill), right before the Florida House voted on their companion bill to SB 7026 outlawing young adults from buying any type of long gun in a gun store.

    He basically said it was no big deal. That it was just a "judgement call".

    He said it was okay to ban 18-20 year olds from buying long guns, because 17 year olds were banned from buying them.

    And he basically said it didn't matter that 18 year old single mothers were out of luck. Tough.

    He could have made the same argument to prohibit those under 35. After all, he said verbatim, "We aren't infringing on anyone's rights".

    https://thefloridachannel.org/videos/3-7-18-house-session-part-3/

    Start watching at 2:31:00.

    Because you can't be President until you are 35, then well, "we can pick any age we want to delay the exercise of your rights".