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I bought a box of this ammo and I'm wondering how far off these are from being full power 10mm. I believe they have been chronograph at around 1290 or 1250 fps out a 5inch barrel.
 

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They are pretty fair. I consider "full power", old-style, old data, 10mm to be +/- 1400 fps with 180 grain bullets. Those are a bit warmer than most, however, found today on the shelf.
 

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They are pretty fair. I consider "full power", old-style, old data, 10mm to be +/- 1400 fps with 180 grain bullets. Those are a bit warmer than most, however, found today on the shelf.
I put some down range yesterday and I was surprise the recoil wasn't bad at all; I also shot some 155 xtp hornady and they recoiled harder than the 175 Win STps! I thought there was a distinct difference in the recoil with the hornady 155 XTP recoiling harder. Those 155 XTP are some some bad Arsses or I need better recoil springs. I better order some wolf springs.
 

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What gun are you shooting?
 

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What gun are you shooting?
S&W 1006. The recoil with the 155 XTP was harder to me but not unmanageable at all. I just thought they was hitting harder. I do know the XTP is newer ammo tech than the Win STps so maybe Hornady has up the power a little.
 

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I handloaded 155 XTP back in 1990. I decided then that the 180 grain would be my "standard".
 

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Match10 said:
I handloaded 155 XTP back in 1990. I decided then that the 180 grain would be my "standard".
Would you consider the 180 XTP to be close to a hot 10mm cartridge? I decided to use the 155 XTP as my anti personnel round.
 

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I would consider them full power loads in today's market. When they introduced the .40, the watered down 10mm "FBI Loads" never recovered their strength. The silvertip according to winchester's ballistics are up near the top. The only thing hotter that I have found would be Buffalo Bore or Double Tap. It would be nice if the ammo manufacturers would raise the bar a bit and make a new "standard".
 

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JMJ2 said:
Match10 said:
What gun are you shooting?
S&W 1006. The recoil with the 155 XTP was harder to me but not unmanageable at all. I just thought they was hitting harder. I do know the XTP is newer ammo tech than the Win STps so maybe Hornady has up the power a little.
Hornady claims 1,265 http://www.hornady.com/store/10mm-155-gr-HP-XTP/ from a "5 inch test barrel."

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalo ... cts_id=239 Doubletap is driving that weight bullet at 1,400 fps.

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... _list&c=24

Swamp Fox http://www.swampfoxgunworks.com/swampfo ... 340&page=1 drives the 155 grain XTP at 1,450 from a stock Glock 20, and many people claim that their own testing backs up the manufacturer's claimed velocity. His guarantee:
BUY THEM AND TRY FIVE GUARANTEE.
If you buy these bullets, shoot FIVE of them (pershipment) and if you dont think they are what you expected. Contact me and send them back and i'll refund the cost plus basic shipping.

This applies if you shoot five. You must send back all but Five rds per shipment to qualify for this guarantee.
YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
 

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JMJ2 said:
Would you consider the 180 XTP to be close to a hot 10mm cartridge?
Close? Yes, but you can drive it much faster, and the XTP will not self destruct in the target when driven faster. It is a well constructed bullet that will retain its weight.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
JMJ2 said:
Would you consider the 180 XTP to be close to a hot 10mm cartridge?
Close? Yes, but you can drive it much faster, and the XTP will not self destruct in the target when driven faster. It is a well constructed bullet that will retain its weight.
I'll second this one.. it's close, but the recoil is noticeably less than the Buffalo Bore "heavy" ammo. That is still the closest to a full power 10mm I've shot that wasn't hand loaded. They claim 1,350FPS and 782 ft. lbs. at the muzzle.
 

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vr6glidriver said:
Malum Prohibitum said:
JMJ2 said:
Would you consider the 180 XTP to be close to a hot 10mm cartridge?
Close? Yes, but you can drive it much faster, and the XTP will not self destruct in the target when driven faster. It is a well constructed bullet that will retain its weight.
I'll second this one.. it's close, but the recoil is noticeably less than the Buffalo Bore "heavy" ammo. That is still the closest to a full power 10mm I've shot that wasn't hand loaded. They claim 1,350FPS and 782 ft. lbs. at the muzzle.
After I change the recoil springs I'll order some Buffalo bore. I've seen video of Double tap ammo 10mm and they showed excellent penetration through barriers but didn't show much expansion. I'll also pick up some Hornady 180 XTP real soon. I'm thinking the Buffalo bore can be used for non personnel shooting/hunting.
 

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They claim 1,350FPS and 782 ft. lbs. at the muzzle.
Thats pretty good though. I think the original Norma specs was 180gr at 1200 fps.
 

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What would you guys recommend for a GA deer/hog hunting load in the 10mm? (Nothing big, coastal barrier island hunting, small whitetails & feral hogs)

I've been carrying cor-ban 165 & 180g when hunting, but normally carry 175g silvertips.

For handloads I've only used Barnes FMJ's (have several boxes from an old closeout), but I guess I could try to work something up.

I'm thinking the maximum expansion type bullets (Hornady XTP, etc) would not be good for hog.

I'm leaning toward the lighter bullets as they are flatter shooting. Pistol is a SS delta elite.

Any suggestions welcome!
 

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For hogs especially, and deer, I would choose the 180 grain XTP. I have experience with one slavering 500 pound California boar with clicking 9" sharp tusks.... The 10 mm Delta did its job well from the tree I was in....

I think a 155 grain projectile just cannot hang together in a hog.
 
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