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#1 ·
I am making a trip to "retrieve" a friend and his wife as things are getting nasty up there. They will both be staying with my family for as long as needed.

They are both foreign nationals and he works at an Embassy.

She has not been "exposed" to American culture outside of the beltway.

What is the most scenic route from DC to Atlanta?

More details later.
 
#3 ·
OK, leave DC on 66 west. About 12 miles across the river into VA and stop at the NRA National Firearms Museum. Then out 66 to 29 south. 45 miles south on 29 and stop in Brandy Station for the battlefield museum there, the largest cavalry battle in western hemisphere. 10K boys in grey took on 14K blue bellies. Field changed hands a few times over the course of battle. Declared draw because yankees were able to maintain discipline but Grey pretty much held the field. First time the bluebellies were able to not flee in terror. Museum is restored original battlefield aid station before wounded were sent into Culpeper for treatment at the hospital. Now A.P. Hill building but still original building. Walls still bear the signatures, drawings, rosters and thoughts of original wounded treated there.

Head south on 29 to Madison. Right at the traffic light there go into the Pig and Steak. Best barbecue you gonna find in many a near and far place. Then on to Charlottesville and visit Thomas Jeffersons University. Keep south on 29. At Lynchburg split off on 460 toward Roanoke, with a stop at Bedford VA. Stop at D-Day memorial. Google Bedford Boys for details on the other important museum there. Bit further south (8 miles or so prior to Roanoke) on 460 to 81. You get on 81 at exit/entrance 150. South to 77, around exit 85. South on 77 and from there to the Civil War shot tower. Small history site where the cannon and rifle shot were poured.

South on 77 to 85 and on to Atlanta.

Questions PM or post for more. I can keep you busy and safe areas. Pretty much outside the beltway in Va, OC is non-issue and if OC there is no permit required. And 99% of the time it won't get a comment or second look.

Do not possess in DC or if found your azs is grazs.

Nemo
 
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Going there in reverse of above, on 66 into DC the first (farthest outside DC) Metrorail is Vienna on the Orange Line. Go there if you are planning on that. There is a fair amount of parking but it can be iffy on most days. Anything after 630 or so weekdays and maybe 8am on weekends. Best bet would be to have them meet you out there. Thats primarily contingent on luggage they will be having with them.

I am sure carry is prohibited in the stations and on the trains. And do not try it downtown. I don't want to have to come try to bail you out.

I would discourage the Springfield area spaghetti bowl area. I do not go there myself. Vienna is about 10 miles out of the way if I do DC over Springfield and its worth the extra traffic.

Other thoughts. Avoid 81 as much as you can. The 70 miles I suggest is basically necessary unless you want small town 2 lane type roads. 81 is way overcrowded and near dangerous. You can end up in a 3 hour traffic delay (as in move 100 yards in 3 hours) then start and back up to speed in 1/2 mile. Not an unusual happening.

Nemo
 
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That works and likely simplest, but a fair chance expensive. But if just a couple luggage bags, outbound MetroRail would not be major problem. I am confident if they have been in DC more than 6 months they know Metrorail well.

Nemo
 
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I have known the VIP since 1998 and was his private tutor (various college level courses) for several years. His father was a United Nations Ambassador (now deceased) and he is from a country where marriages are pre arranged by family.
 
#12 ·
Go with his meet up ideas.

If my suggestions are not of interest I have numerous others I can suggest. It all depends on time available.

Nemo
 
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#14 ·
I know you know this, but:

Be sure to leave your firearm at your friend's place in VA if you have to go into DC. Pick it up on the return trip.
 
#16 ·
My friend ...married couple ...I helped raise their boys ...her father - staunch republican, Lt. Colonel in USMC and commander at NIH. His background -Bernie supporter and very anti gun.

It needs to stay in my car.
 
#17 ·
On the way back, continue on I81 past I77 until 19W at Bristol. Drive around the Bristol Motor Speedway. Pick up I26 at Johnson City and follow it south for some really cool mountain driving. Make sure your brakes are good before trying this road. Biltmore is a worth a day in Asheville. No carry in the main house, though - enforced with metal detectors and no King's Men exemption. It's private property. Dinner at Binion's Steakhouse in Hendersonville. They have the last still made by Popcorn Sutton on display. Its a small model still he made for a TV show. You can go interstate or mountain roads back to ATL. There is a decent direct route from Hendersonville, TN to Greenville, SC. Stop off at Palmetto Dtate Armory and show them what freedom really looks like. Two more hours or so down I85 and you are home.
 
#18 ·
While he is here, I am going to take him to New Echota near Resaca and explain to him the main differences between the Democratic and Republican Parties and where the division started. The forced removal of the Cherokee from their land, even after winning a Supreme Court case. Samuel Worcester's house is still at the museum. I also know, and grew up with, an Anthropology Professor's at KSU's son ...she and her husband helped build that museum, and the log cabins there.

Any other neat things to show them while they are here? He wants his wife to understand she has rights in the United States. Up until a year ago, women were not allowed to drive in his country (I know that narrows down where he is from).
 
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While he is here, I am going to take him to New Echota near Resaca and explain to him the main differences between the Democratic and Republican Parties and where the division started. The forced removal of the Cherokee from their land, even after winning a Supreme Court case. Samuel Worcester's house is still at the museum. I also know, and grew up with, an Anthropology Professor's at KSU's son ...she and her husband helped build that museum, and the log cabins there.

Any other neat things to show them while they are here? He wants his wife to understand she has rights in the United States. Up until a year ago, women were not allowed to drive in his country (I know that narrows down where he is from).
A couple of side notes: The Cherokee Removal was because Andrew Jackson was a double-crossing, psychotic POS. He got the Cherokee to help him wipe out the Creek, then he turned around and did the Trail Of Tears to them, as if to say thanks.

Oh, and even though New Echota is a real neat place, it is kind of fake, in a way. Fake, as in the real New Echota site was actually across the highway (state 2-lane, not I-75) from the site people visit today. Located on a farm (or ranch), on private property today. I learned that from one of the maps on a sign there.

Back on topic: OP - good point about staying in VA and having your friend Ubered to you. At least that way, you can have and carry a gun the entire time (but not in the building at the New Echota museum (that is gov't property, and while carry is legal there, it is not, inside any buildings).
 
#22 ·
He is already anti-commie, pro-Trump. But ..that is nothing to do with what I have personally done. He grew up understanding what was behind the North Yemen Civil War (He is not from Yemen). The insurgency in Yemen was backed by the Soviets. His country trained the opposition (Rafal Gan-Ganowicz was contracted out by his country).

I don't really know how he feels about guns. I do know how he feels about radicalized terrorists (they should all be beheaded) and he is very proud that his Country deals with terrorists very harshly. He loves America.

I just know that when I lived in DC, he was always checking on me to see if I was ok, and he treated me like a little brother and true friend. He was always watching out for me and making sure I was safe ...and now it is my turn to return the favor.
 
#24 ·
Nemo,

Have you been to the Native American Museum yet? They had a gun display that was very cool and explained how the gun trade between European Settlers and Native Americans "evolved". I may have some pictures of it on my PC at home.
 
#31 ·
Ok, my friends in NoVa are not allowing any guests due to covid-19. They have been diligent about this and I understand and respect it.

I will probably just stay in a hotel in NoVa. Go pick up my friends, then check out on the way back. No laws broken.
 
#32 ·
Ok, my friends in NoVa are not allowing any guests due to covid-19. They have been diligent about this and I understand and respect it.

I will probably just stay in a hotel in NoVa. Go pick up my friends, then check out on the way back. No laws broken.
Be sure and use hotel safe for sidearm, and if it is in your room, put do not disturb sign on room door while away...

In a pinch, a gun lock can be used to attach a gun to a bed frame. Or your car gunsafe can be cabled to bedframe.
 
#34 ·
I do not know the status of the Embassy security.

He works there, does not live in the Embassy. He lives in a private penthouse in the George Washington University Hospital area. I can walk to his home from the Foggy Bottom GWU Metro stop. The Saudi Embassy is not far from where he lives.

I am concerned for his safety and his wife due to planned "peaceful" protests ...I have no intel on whether those protests/demonstrations will erupt into violence. I am just thinking it is better to be safe than sorry, and basing my judgement on the past demonstrations where pallets of bricks were dropped off and a church was lit on fire.
 
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#36 ·
I see why you want to get him out. I read the link. Looks like that will be the left's last big push before the election.
 
#40 · (Edited)
I was in NoVa the evening in Jan 1991 when the air war regarding Iraq and Kuwait got started over there. After hearing of it first starting I decided to take a ride downtown to DC.

I rode around most of the Govt area for about an hour or so. I have little doubt there was a full battle ready battalion of light infantry squad-ed up about ever other street corner. I have little doubt that could reoccur in about 4 hours max (probably closer to 2 hours with no notice) with Ft. Belvior and Quantico less than an hour travel time from White House.

Nemo

as far as the AdBusters link above. Go read that along with #2 and #3.

https://www.adbusters.org/

Tactical Briefing #3

Alright you redeemers, rebels and radicals out there,

Trump is trying to steal the election . . . it's got many of us pretty rattled . . . and things could turn very ugly very quickly as November 3rd approaches.

Lawyers are already in court, mounting pre-emptive strikes and preparing for the scorched-earth scenarios likely to come. Meanwhile white supremacists are waiting in the wings, spoiling for a violent showdown.

You can laugh, but the possibility of a civil war breaking out sometime next year is no joke.

With a lot of luck, it may not come to that. Biden, polling well ahead right now, could win by a landslide. Trump may then fade quietly into history.

But if the election is close and Trump refuses to leave, then who is going to make him go? Barr's Justice Department? The Supreme Court? The D.C. police? The Marines?

If the mechanisms of American democracy fail then it will fall on us, the people, to set things right . . . and to do that, we need more than viral memes, frenetic Tweeting and fervent calls to action - We need a fucking strategy!

So . . . all you #METOOers, #BLM activists, Extinction Rebels, Sunrisers, and CodePinks out there: it's time for us to start talking to each other and coordinating our actions.

Together we can organize pop-up sieges at federal buildings in dozens of cities . . . maybe even launch a national art project to decorate the streets with stunning visual memes.

And we could make sure that activists turn up in Washington, D.C. in ever increasing numbers as the election approaches.

Lafayette Square may be cordoned off and military police will doubtless be there in full force. But what can they do if hundreds of thousands of us turn up all over the nation's capital, day after day, and start playing totally non-violent improvisational jazz . . . much like we did in Zuccotti Park nine years ago?

#WhiteHouseSiege has an ominous ring to it. But it could turn out to be the most beautiful, festive, and effective uprising that America has seen since the Revolution.

Together, with history watching, we can electrify the election season - and win.
 
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#41 ·
My freshman year and the very first week, after new student orientation, I was with some of the incoming students out sight seeing. We had all met at nso. We decided to ride a bus back to Union Station to wait for our University shuttle.

While sitting in the DC Metro bus, in traffic, and in front of Union Station, a guy got out of his car and went to the car that was in front of him and shot and killed everyone inside. Apparently, his wife had been cheating on him and he had been following her (that was later reported in the news, or another student told me, I can't remember which).

Anyways, I remember the DC Police reaction ...it was like ALL of them popped up out of the cracks in the sidewalk. BOOM! ALL of them were suddenly right there. Like magic.
 
#42 ·
I was in NoVa the evening in Jan 1991 when the air war regarding Iraq and Kuwait got started over there. After hearing of it first starting I decided to take a ride downtown to DC.

I rode around most of the Govt area for about an hour or so. I have little doubt there was a full battle ready battalion of light infantry squad-ed up about ever other street corner. I have little doubt that could reoccur in about 4 hours max (probably closer to 2 hours with no notice) with Ft. Belvior and Quantico less than an hour travel time from White House.

Nemo

as far as the AdBusters link above. Go read that along with #2 and #3.

https://www.adbusters.org/
This is a Marxist strategy to overthrow the US Government.

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#43 ·
It would prudent, in my opinion, that if an individual can avoid the fray, they should stay away.
Would it not also be prudent for you to stay out of a potential hot zone? Can your friends not safely (?) Uber their way from Point A to Point B? It's not like you're going to be able to go to them with any sort of firepower. You know what would most likely happen to you.
 
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#44 ·
I am going to discuss it with him. I personally think that would be the best option, and anytime a person travels in DC, they are always running a risk. I am also planning on getting there and leaving before the 17th. I will be home the Sunday before.
 
#45 ·
Don't speed in Virginia. They've got the usual 20 over is reckless, but they also write you for reckless over 80 - and that includes while you're driving on a 70mph posted highway.

The possible penalties include jail time. Although a plethora of lawyers will flood your out of state mailbox with offers to help if you get the ticket and money will solve the problem.
 
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