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I'm very pro-police...but this looks over the top to me !

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#4 ·
I was referring to and will defer to your commentary. Based on your noted years of volunteer police dept assistance experience and training.

How was the arrest over the top and the takedown not necessary?

Nemo
 
#5 ·
I don't assist in making arrests. Don't know where you got this or why you seem to be offended by any comments or posts I make.

If you don't think it was over the top then you are entitled to you opinion. I think it was and I'm entitled to mine.
 
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You have commented in the past about your extensive KSAs earned in your widespread volunteer training and experience in police volunteer work.

I was seeking benefit of your experience to understand why this is over the top. Please educate me and the rest of the inexperienced civilians who frequent this site.

Nemo
 
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You have commented in the past about your extensive KSAs earned in your widespread volunteer training and experience in police volunteer work.

I was seeking benefit of your experience to understand why this is over the top. Please educate me and the rest of the inexperienced civilians who frequent this site.

Nemo
So, it's just my opinion watching what I saw that it was unnecessary to throw him to the pavement.

So, you think it was necessary ?

I guess we can agree to disagree.
 
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I did not agree or disagree. I just seek education from your extensive warehouse of applicable knowledge and experience.

Nemo
 
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I can observe and form opinions but I seek being educated on how you reach your evaluations. Your methodology based on your wide experience and training could be helpful.

Or are you unwilling share your extensive knowledge base?

Nemo
 
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HJB chose to leave the Field of verbal battle. Nemo, that is conceding victory to his opponent, you. You get a master forum battle star. I salute you Nemo! We'll done!
 
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There was no verbal battle. He refused to give his opinion because I guess he is unable to take a position so he just keeps saying the same thing over and over. Doesn't seem to be able to think for himself.

Do you have an opinion ?
 
#15 ·
I have an opinion (no one here would begin to think otherwise) but I am seeking information from someone much better educated and higher skilled in these matters than I.

Based on the substantial education and extensive experience (as you have noted) you have in these things there is little doubt you are well qualified to inform and educate us all regarding police civilian contacts. Much more so than I. Please advise us.

Nemo
 
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My understanding is that this was a domestic violence call (among the most hazardous of calls for the police), there was a report that he may be armed, and there was a stand-off. They're going to want to gain control over the suspect as quickly as possible.

Given all that, it doesn't seem that excessive to me. It was a body tackle which landed him on his butt (not a leg tackle which cracked his head against the pavement).

I wiped out on my bike a couple of weeks ago on the Silver Comet Trail (my daughter rear-ended me!), and I landed almost exactly like that, butt/hip impact, and while I was bruised up and scraped my palms pretty well, I was okay enough to stand up, scowl, and throw down with a Dad Lecture.

DH
 
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Yeah, make a statement, get challenged on it, cannot defend it, put on your sad face and go home.

Nemo
 
#22 ·
You can put forth an opinion but cannot provide any reasoning or basis for it? Thats what I wanted from you.

Nemo
 
#33 ·
One does what one must ;-). But this one is so far offshore its beginning to feel like I am beating a brick with a stick :shakehead:.

Seems no matter how clear I make a request, some just refuse to argue their belief with anything other than they said it.

Nemo
 
#34 ·
The man looked calm, obeying instructions and not the least bit “wild eyed””.
I’m going to agree, no need to tackle him.
If you take a law abiding, law enforcement supporting citizens and treat him like crap you’ve made an enemy. It would have been a lot simpler to ask him to put his hands behind his back.
IMO
 
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