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It's taken 3 1/2 years, but people have finally realized that they can pretty much tune Trump out. He's become pretty irrelevant.

He abandoned leadership, and when you do that, people stop listening. Cut the states loose, basically, so they took up the reins themselves. Made uninformed pronouncements on COVID, so most school districts ignored that and are having virtual opens anyway.

You can really see it in his "many generals say it was a bomb" claim the other day, to which actual generals said "lol, wut?", and the rest of the world just kind of didn't react to it.

Basically, the grownups are ready to get back to work.

(Sort of top of mind since reading WaPo's rundown this morning: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...aacfa6-d76f-11ea-9c3b-dfc394c03988_story.html)

DH
 
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What does this have to do with the EO being discussed/presented?
Do you often go to the Washington ComPost for your up-to-date outlook on the highly fallible yet best President this nation has had in at least 60 years?
 
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I don’t think the signing was significant. There may not be funding or legal avenues for the executive branch to exercise such power. Watching what Congress does will be more significant.

It was a heck of a political maneuver though. The Republicans are going to be loathe to eat one of their own in an election year and the Democrats potentially have to sue to stop relief funds from making it to voters. If Congress remains deadlocked or self-immolates, executive power grows unchecked. If Congress gets their act together to check executive power, either they’re the bad guys (stealing relief from the citizenry) or Trump gets to claim credit for any positive actions they take (if they fund another relief package).
 
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Someone needs to go read the debates on record, news articles, federalist papers and anti federalist papers dealing the the 2A as it was being considered and finally drafted. tench Coxe would be a good read to get you started... Perhaps then some here would be qualified to make reasonable statements instead of claiming the 2A is there for strictly recreational purposes.
 
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Someone needs to go read the debates on record, news articles, federalist papers and anti federalist papers dealing the the 2A as it was being considered and finally drafted.
Excellent advice, but left wing types tend not to let historical facts get in the way of their agenda and outright ignorance. History and its lessons are kryptonite to the progressive agenda. That's why you have uneducated folks graduating from schools. I would say not all but a very large number of 2nd Amendment supporters are well versed in the origins and birth of the 2nd while most of those who oppose it don't have a clue.
 
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Changing direction a little, assume for the sake of argument that it is not constitutional for the president to order the IRS not to collect taxes (temporarily) that Congress has imposed, who would have standing to sue? In order to sue, you have to be injured. Who is injured if a tax is not collected? Perhaps another taxpayer could complain that he is going to have to pay more taxes to make up for it, but that seems conjectural unless he actually does have to pay more taxes.
 
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Think about when DACA was created. Who was harmed by letting people stay?
Just as who is harmed by providing $400.00 more to the unemployment check, no payroll taxes, not being kicked out of your house, relief on student loan payments.
 
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The question I was answering was who was harmed by allowing them to stay. Not who had standing now to sue. I could not even tell you who to sue much less had standing. The builders who hired the illegals at $8 per hour instead of the Citizens who deserved their wages to increase instead of declining? How and why? The simple fact is the answer to the question as to who was harmed is millions of American Citizens have been harmed for many years by illegals coming in and working on the cheap to get paid without paying taxes. Attending and over crowding our schools. Going to college as instate residents harming other students that because they are not from that state either they have to pay a higher out of state rate for tuition. Anyone who thinks illegal border crashing does not harm the US Citizens just look at the illegals who have taken over the landscape business and the lawn care industries. Those at one time were very well paying jobs. A US Citizen could even afford to buy his/her own house on the wages they could earn. Now you have illegals with 6, 8 10 of them riding in one truck to get to the job and paying rent together on one apartment driving the wages down so far a US Citizen no longer can afford to take it on because they do not want to live bunched up the way the illegals will. Maybe you get the idea of how and who has been harmed with just a couple of examples. There are far too may other industries where US Citizens have been driven out by cheap illegal labor to mention in a post on a forum. End DACA and deport them. They will be coming after the lawyers jobs next.
 
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None of you old guys posted this up yet? Looking at you nemo...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whats-in-president-trump-four-coronavirus-relief-executive-orders

Funny he signed this yesterday but it's not trending anywhere on google this morning.
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If you are under $100k in salary, then 7.5% pay bump starting next month. Let's just say $100,000 to make math easy. That is $7500, but it is only for Sep, Oct, Nov, and Dec, so $2500.

Who thinks the House Democrats will refuse to forgive the taxes before the end of the year?

Then each worker will have to pay back a sum of money, up to $2500 . . .
 
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From the link:

Sec. 2. Deferring Certain Payroll Tax Obligations. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby directed to use his authority pursuant to 26 U.S.C. 7508A to defer the withholding, deposit, and payment of the tax imposed by 26 U.S.C. 3101(a), and so much of the tax imposed by 26 U.S.C. 3201 as is attributable to the rate in effect under 26 U.S.C. 3101(a), on wages or compensation, as applicable, paid during the period of September 1, 2020, through December 31, 2020, subject to the following conditions:​

(a) The deferral shall be made available with respect to any employee the amount of whose wages or compensation, as applicable, payable during any bi-weekly pay period generally is less than $4,000, calculated on a pre-tax basis, or the equivalent amount with respect to other pay periods.

(b) Amounts deferred pursuant to the implementation of this memorandum shall be deferred without any penalties, interest, additional amount, or addition to the tax.​
 
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