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Gun Rally Atlanta Capitol April 14 EDIT: Permit pulled, no longer a legal rally!

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#1 · (Edited)
https://m.facebook.com/events/182853385827205?__tn__=*s-R

For those who don't have Facebook or for when Facebook censors this:

https://thenccpa.com/2018/03/18/americans-for-america-rally/

This is happening at (hopefully) every capitol around the nation.

We need to give this our best shot. We're running out of options before we are completely backed into a corner.

April 14th, 2 pm, Atlanta capitol. Be there and bring as many folks as you can.

EDIT: The organizer has noted that open carrying long guns is not suggested. You're grown adults living in a free country, so make your own informed choice on what/how to carry.

Edit:
Those in charge have pulled the permit for this rally. The organizer states that they were surprised with a nearly $7k bill for gsp to come out and supervise this rally. Please be advised that if you still choose to attend, it will not be "legal" in the eyes of law enforcement. As great as it would have been to share this rally day with the rest of the nation, we will have to revisit this idea and take all of the guesswork out of the equation. We will also need more preparation time and funding. We will be in control of the event, instead of it just being the first person to sign up as an organizer. And when I say we, I mean a group of like-minded individuals, it could be folks from this site or it could be folks from gco, it really doesn't matter. What's important is that we learn from this. Good luck to everyone and stay safe.

I will note that this infringement on the first amendment is disturbing. A permit should absolutely not be required for a peaceful protest. That's where we are right now, so maybe we should have a pro first amendment rally as well. If only there was something on writing that would protect our right to free speech and our right to bear arms...
 
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#3 ·
https://m.facebook.com/events/182853385827205?__tn__=*s-R

For those who don't have Facebook or for when Facebook censors this:

https://thenccpa.com/2018/03/18/americans-for-america-rally/

This is happening at (hopefully) every capitol around the nation. I plan to bring my Colt LE 6920 in support of the 2nd amendment.

We need to give this our best shot. We're running out of options before we are completely backed into a corner.

April 14th, 2 pm, Atlanta capitol. Be there and bring as many folks as you can.
I'll be there unless something physically keeps me from it.
 
#7 ·
the links dont wirk for me.
What gun rights group or groups are calling for this?
Surely its not just something some random dude came up with on his own.

I like that its on a Saturday.
Only the rich and the welfare class can easily take a half a weekday day off from work to lobby or protest for a political cause.
 
#9 ·
It seems to me a rally like this is playing the game on the antis' terms. It's a game gun owners do not play well. There will be a paltry showing of a few hundred gun owners compared to the tens of thousands that showed for the pro ban event of this past weekend. In the public consciousness, it will be a loss for our side.
 
#10 ·
Playing on our terms has not been working out very well. I'd say it's less about sheer numbers and more about being a reminder to all that we are here and we are the armed portion of the population.

I also think that the media will down play whatever turn out there is. I can't sit idly by.
 
#11 ·
It's a concern for me when the "About" page has far too little information and what is there is not encouraging:

The National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans is a coalition of various Patriotic based group Leadership that has come together to unify our ideals and diligently work together to uphold the Constitution and improve the lives of Americans.

We come from all walks of life, including Three Percent groups and local Militias, in order to unite and tell the Country that it's time to put America back on track!​
 
#20 · (Edited)
According to this link:

https://freedomoutpost.com/april-14...lans-second-amendment-rallies-state-capitals/

this "National Constitutional Coalition of Patriotic Americans" was founded by a guy named David Clayton from West Virginia in either 2017 or 2018. Never heard of him. I don't see any other individuals listed nor any other groups listed. Nothing comes up on a DDG search except their Facebook page. Not even their website which I got off of FB. A WHOIS search of their domain name shows it was created this month (March 2018 ), its server is in Canada and it's private. No other information is available.

Maybe somebody is playing us?
 
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#23 ·
Maybe somebody is playing us?
This is my assumption. If there is actually a coalition of patriotic groups where are they? Who are they? It would be great if there is actually a wide range of gun rights groups and orgs involved in a unified coalition. However until I actually see proof and not just smoke and mirrors there is no fire. If you want to assemble a coalition then get it together first then announce it. Don't announce it before it is reality.

To the OP: Start contacting the gun rights groups both State and National and get them all involved in a unified coalition then you might actually be able to pull off a nation wide march. Don't forget Oath Keepers.
 
#22 ·
One person who is the POC will need to apply for a permit for the rally, with the GSP and the Capitol Police.

I would also like to know more about who is sponsoring this rally. If GCO and the NRA and other gun rights groups become involved and support the rally, I would be more comfortable with considering attending. That is, IF I could...that's a work day for me.

If it's going to be mostly militia types in camo, this event will not have very much impact, and may be a negative. These events work, when you get regular folks, dressed like regular folks, who are carrying guns safely and sensibly, and who hold their rally peacefully with no issues.
 
#26 ·
Building a coalition is not an easy or fast task to undertake. Trust me on this I know first hand how hard, time consuming and financially taxing it can be. It can be done but takes perseverance in order to get it done. Took me years to get one together but it paid off.
 
#27 ·
I wish I had that long, but I'm afraid time is not on our side. Florida got caught with their pants down because they had no dominant grassroots group to defend them. I'm trying to pull the United States pants up before we're in the same boat as Florida, but like you said, it takes time. I'm hoping gco is fast tracking the Florida group that is just in its infancy, then I'm hoping we can fast track combining with the rest of the country in standing for our freedoms.
 
#36 ·
As already stated it take time to put something effective together. Unlike having the media and the anti gun politicians ready to jump at the first puff of wind at your back like the students at Parkland did you face the wind head on. The legislation passed in Florida happened so fast you didn't have time to get a plane ticket much less a rental car and hotel room. Even with the wind at their back it still took them over a month to get things in place. They had the world media and huge backing from some extremely wealthy people and organizations. You are attempting to put it together in a couple of weeks. It's not going to happen.

The best thing for you to do is start building relationships with every gun rights org across the nation. Set a reasonable gun rights march date based on responses from those groups. Remember you re not as well funded nor will the media be your friend. It's a pain to put this together but a worthy cause. If you really want it then do the leg work. It can even take a year or 2 but you can't give up. The harder you work and the more time you are willing to devote to the effort the less calendar days it will take. It is possible to get it done in a month as has been seen if you can get the big boys behind you. Build your coalition, get everyone on the same page, set your date and have your rally. Until then make some retractions so one or two people don't show up to be laughed at by the media.
 
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#38 ·
There won't be any big changes in Georgia's gun laws this year anyway.
That wasn't in the cards.

So, sure, hold a rally after sine die. Hold it in the spring, summer, or fall.
If the legislators are there to witness it, great. But if it's a Saturday, they won't be there anyway, to witness it live and in-person.

So let the rally go forward any day, any time of year, and plant that image of massive popular support for gun rights in the minds of the politicians who will see news coverage of it later that day or the next day. (IF we can get that big, impressive crowd, and have everybody stay focused on just the gun control message, not the anti-immigrant message, not Obama, not Hillary-as-she-devil, not any other conservative / libertarian issue).
 
#39 ·
The rally will be muddied as follows:

Pro: Trump, NRA, Christianity, straight marriage.
Anti: Obama, Clinton, atheism and gay marriage.

Yell one-liner-non-aruments like, "it's muh right" when questioned about why AR15s should still be legal.

Assured Results:

-Zero minds changed.
-No new blood added to our cause.
-Continue losing strategy.
 
#46 · (Edited)
I think one of the most effective methods of protest I've seen -with- guns is for one or two pro gun people to show up with AR15s at large-scale, anti gun demonstrations and have a friend record how they are spat on and abused by the anti gun crowd. It makes their side look like insane bullies and our side rational and composed, all without saying a word. Make them their worst enemies. Baiting them and recording their true colors is a very effective tool for garnering sympathy for our side.

A video of what I described shared around social media would be many times more effective than a few hundred gun toters showing up at the capital with rebel flags.
 
#49 ·
Back on topic.......

As of this morning I haven't seen this "march" discussed anywhere on the "usual subjects" gun forums and gun writers that most of us are familiar with. With the exception of one 6-page thread on ar15.com. In General Discussion where the lunatics drool while composing a post.

Why does nobody in the mainstream gun media seem to be aware of this? Why is there no central cast of organizers? Why is there no mention of the groups involved?

What is it that we're all supposed to be marching for? What's the message we're trying to get across to the people? The Parkland shooting resulted in the "March For Our Lives." What's our banner going to say?

I saw a poster in the ar15.com thread that showed the Oath Keepers logo on it. And yet nowhere on the Oath Keepers website is there one single word about the march. I don't think Stewart Rhodes is going to be overly happy about the implication when it's brought to his attention.

Inquiring minds would like to know what the hell is going on.
 
#53 ·
Correct, has not happened here because we have gco.
I appreciate and financially support what GCO does but don't go playing different state's groups against each other. There may be extenuating circumstances that are not readily apparent to everyone.
 
#54 ·
Wth? I'm doing the opposite of playing them against each other, I'm trying to unite them. Several people that I know that live in fl have told me the same thing... They don't have a solid single grassroots group on their side. That's all I'm saying.
 
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